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katrina42
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Neil Queen married helen kane . son joseph queen married Sarah coffield 1867. looking for information on Neil queen and helen parents of Joseph Queen. ( Glasgow )
will post certificate on site as unsure of helen's surname
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katrina42
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On their wedding certificate dated 1867 it has Joseph aged 30 and Sarah aged 24 same address as census records though? has father deceased on certificate but nothing in regards to mother
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MonicaLesl
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The 1881 census entry looks promising  :
Joseph Queen 45, iron ship rivetter, b. Ireland
Sarah Queen 37
Agnes Queen 10
Ellen Queen 7
Joseph Queen 5
James Queen 3
Ellen Queen 90, mother, b. Ireland
Address: 21 Catherine St, Anderston Glasgow
Likely mother died in Scotland and the image of the death entry would be available to view on Scotlands People. Her death certificate may confirm her parents' names if known to the informant.
Monica 
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MonicaLesl
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From Falkryn's entry for 1871, Joseph showed the occupation of boiler maker. I wonder if this could be Joseph before marriage, in 1861:
Helen McQueen 60, cotton winder, b. Ireland
Bridget McQueen 28, cotton winder, b. Ireland
Joseph McQueen 23, boilermaker b. Ireland
Helen Mulaholand 2, granddaughter, b. Glasgow
Address: 3 Whitehall Street, Anderston Glasgow
As you can see, if the right family for Joseph, ages go up and down. Also with a name like Queen, always worthwhile searching for it as McQueen.
Monica
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katrina42
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so it's looking like Ellen Queen who was 60 in the 1861 census was helen kane who may have made it to scotland to live with her son and daughter as Joseph's father is already deceased in 1967 marriage of joseph and sarah so its looking probable that he was deceased in 1861 too
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Katrina
You'll hopefully be able to confirm the details if you view Helen's death cert. It will include her husband's name and parents' details, if known. With luck, you may find son Joseph reported the death
There is a death showing in Anderston for a Helen Queen/Kane in 1881. She must have died shortly after the census that year.
Monica
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katrina42
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Thanks Monica will get more credits and check that out later after work, thank you x
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MonicaLesl
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Just thought to check the 1841 census:
Neil Queen 40, labourer
Helen Queen 38
Maryann Queen 18
James Queen 20
Patrick Queen 14
John Queen 12
Biddie Queen 11
Joseph Queen 6
Sarah Rodgers 50
James Rodgers 24
Elizabeth Rodgers 3
Address: John Street, Glasgow Barony
All the Queen family show an Irish birth. Not sure if the Rodgers family is connected as the 1841 census carries limited info (no relationships shown within the household being one of the limitations).
Monica
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katrina42
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Thanks monica so i know now neil was born around 1801 and the names are consistant with family names my gg aunt was biddy queen born this era.
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katrina42
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have found death of a neil queen in dundee 21/01/1848 is it possible that this may be neil queen as i cannot find him anywhere else on scotlands people,found death certificate for wife helen kane/queen 25/12/1881 in Anderston Glasgow death certificate signed by son ... could it be husband and wife buried in two different places ?
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katrina42
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re age difference - it's possible that the age was mis transcribed and Sarah may have been 27 at census ( or she may just have been a little economical with the truth) Re Parents - it is possible that neither of them made it over to Scotland which will make your search just a little bit harder  (if so, welcome to the Irish Brick Wall Club ) |
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Katrina
Is this death you have found for a Neil Queen from www.fdca.org.uk/FDCAHowffInfo.html?
This Neil shows as aged 66 and a weaver. Not sure if this is a good fit with the Neil we found in 1841, aged 40 and a labourer in the Glasgow census for that year.
What do you think?
Monica
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katrina42
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Hi monica your right it cannot possibly be him as in the 1941 census for John st, barony glasgow
Neil queen was 40 and a labourer
so he couldn't possibly be 66 by 1948 and in dundee
must have been tired when i looked that one up 
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