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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 06:02 UTC (UK) »

Hello Carole
thanks for trying
they  did leave from  Plymouth in 1853.
according to notes around that time (1850 's)  they would be in  Heast or on there way to   Edinburgh to save for fare and then to  Plymouth to wait for ship for how long HuhHuhHuhHuh looks like they have just  dissapeared for a few years  Undecided
also thanks Steve
Story has it that Rachel  Mc Innes ? may have been a  distant cousin from Harrapol
I went and had a look at www.scotlandspeopel.gov.uk but site seems to be down will try again later ,  I haven't used it before you have to pay to see anything is that right  Huh
thanks again
Jackie
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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 11:20 UTC (UK) »

Yes Jackie - it's a ppv site - have sent you a pm.  :O)
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McDonald originating in Aberlour.  Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour).   Crosbie and Willison.  Borders:  Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 27 June 09 07:03 UTC (UK) »

Hello all
 I'm sorry that the info I have given you may not be correct I have just found these shipping records at
http://www.scan.org.uk/_emigration/em_memberssearch.asp?Number=386 (hope it is OK to print that ) it states that they emigrated in 1862 the names match but birth years not correct out by 10 years on some.
The story of theire daughter Margaret being replaced by niece who's names is listed also  as Margaret checks out.
Also the port of departure is left campletown went to Liverpool before sailing to Australia on the HERCULES  Huh
But
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/australia/davidmalcolm1854.htm

States the details I have given you  Huh

mmmmmmmmmmmm will keep looking
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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 02 July 09 08:06 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jackie

As promised, have attached here Alex and Rachels marriage entry for 1830.  One of the briefest I've seen -  a simple one line, no witnesses named or fathers names.  Quality quite poor - but it is theirs. If you want the full page, please pm me your e-mail address.

Regards,   Steve :O)


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McDonald originating in Aberlour.  Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour).   Crosbie and Willison.  Borders:  Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson, Turner, Bertram, Watson
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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #19 on: Friday 03 July 09 08:37 UTC (UK) »

Hello Steve

Thank you so much for getting that. What a shame there is no more info to add but I would still love a copy.
I have sent you a personal message with email address.
thanks again


regards
Jackie


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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #20 on: Friday 03 July 09 08:52 UTC (UK) »

Hello
I have just received a email from

http://www.scan.org.uk/_emigration/em_memberssearch.asp?Number=386

They where good enough to send me a copy of the original records and they state that they left on the 26 th of December 1852 from campbeltown on the ship Hercules. 

Sorry about the wrong info  Huh got it from family  Roll Eyes

Thanks again to everyone who tried to help

Regards

Jackie







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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #21 on: Friday 03 July 09 10:48 UTC (UK) »

Hello again Jackie

Think I've found the family on the 1851 census - minus Alexander - and a further 2 children born since the '41 census. Have searched for Alexander as that + Alex/Alexr and both Mc and Mac.  Only 2 hits come up for an age 35 to 45 and I'm sure neither is your man.

Used the www.freecen.org.uk site  - still in Heast

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MCINNES   Rachael   Wife   M   F   42   Crofters Wife 4 Acres    Inverness-shire - Strath       
MCINNES   Niel   Son   U   M   18   Crofters Son    Inverness-shire - Strath       
MCINNES   Catharine   Dau   -   F   16   Crofters Dau    Inverness-shire - Strath       
MCINNES   Duncan   Son   -   M   14       Inverness-shire - Strath       
MCINNES   Chirsty   Dau   -   F   11       Inverness-shire - Strath       
MCINNES   Isabella   Dau   -   F   5       Inverness-shire - Strath       
MCINNES   Donald   Son   -   M   3       Inverness-shire - Strath     

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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #22 on: Friday 03 July 09 12:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jackie

Re: that link above

http://www.scan.org.uk/_emigration/em_memberssearch.asp?Number=386

I am just listing the details shown purely for info purposes.

Departure date 26.12.1852 from Campbeltown

All s/name McInnes and all from Heaste (Lord McDonalds Estate)
I have put the birthyears shown on the document in brackets - somebody certainly couldn't do their subraction back in 1852!!

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ALEXANDER aged 43  (1819)
RACHEL aged 43  (1819)
NEIL 20  (1842)
CATHERINE 18 (1844)
DUNCAN 16 (1846)
CHRISTY 14 (1848)
ISABELLA 6 (1856)
DONALD 4 (1858)

MARGARET 18  (1844) - this entry is shown separately from the main family's entry.   Poor Margaret died 13 Feb 1853
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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 04 July 09 23:12 UTC (UK) »

Hello Carole
yes your right  must have been terrible, in my note they where suppose to settle in Queensland Australia but after getting to Adelaide and close to 12 months at sea decided they had enough ship life and settled there instead.

I  have just got another email this time from the ships list
They have stated that they did emigrate on the Hercules 1852 but because of the typhoid some of the passenger where transfered to other ships one being the David Malcolm in 1853 I don't have anything in record form to confirm this  yet but I think all the details are correct now , I hope fingers crossed  Grin

http://www.theshipslist.com/accounts/hies_hercules.htm#


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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 04 July 09 23:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jackie

12 months at sea - it doesn't even bear thinking about.  I wonder if Margaret died of Typhoid
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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 05 July 09 00:18 UTC (UK) »

Hello Carole
From family  records it looks like she did and was buried at sea poor thing hoping to start a new life and  Cry
I would love to find out a bit more of the story of how she came to take the other Margret's place  and was it at man that kept the other  in England or Scotland and where did she end up  Huh there is a bit of a story there maybe
regards
Jackie

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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 05 July 09 00:31 UTC (UK) »

Hello Steve
thanks  you for finding 1841 census I wonder where Alexander is  Huh
he was a Monumental Mason maybe he was away working or he went ahead to  Edinburgh before emigration  Huh
Also Margaret isn't listed either I wonder if she was already married, she was 21 then, working  or with Alexander ?

definitely a bit more searching required

thanks again
Jackie
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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 05 July 09 05:35 UTC (UK) »

Hello
could I possible trouble someone to  please have a look for anything on a
Donald Mc Innes  or MacIness Huh
Daughter Margaret born 1835 possibly Aird Sleat died 13 Feb 1853 at sea on the  David Malcolm
son Neil born possible  or lived Kylerhea
his wife possibly Rachel Huh? possibly MacInnes Huh
his brother in law was  Donald MacInnes, Harrapool, Strath too very confusing
Not sure which one  they are related to Alexander or Rachel because of the same last name  Huh
He is Margaret that died father.
thankyou
regards
Jackie





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Re: Alexander & Rachel Mc Innes census lookup
« Reply #28 on: Monday 20 July 09 13:46 UTC (UK) »

A good researcher in Victoria Australia tracked into this family a few years ago. From memory she came to the conclusion that the father of Margaret who embarked on the Hercules with Alexander and Rachel McInnes was in Aird, & her grandparents were Malcolm McInnes/Annabella McPherson of Kylerhea in Sleat, Skye. Whether she found the Margaret who stayed behind I don't know, and I'm sorry, I don't remember many details, only that a women in ?glenelg? was somehow key to it all. If you email me at rosmci at gmail  dot com I will send you Irene's contact details. Sorry about writing my email address in words,  trying to dodge spammers). Can tell you Alexander lived at #10 Heast. His parents Malcolm McInnes/Margaret Buchanan. He and his brother took over the croft in the 1840s. Rachel came from Harrapool. Rachel died at Wellington SA in 1865. One of her daughters remained in SA with her family at Tungkillo but I think the others went to Victoria when Alexander remarried at the age of 70.
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