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Topic: Mary Lawson (b.1806) Avondale (Read 1248 times)
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Bathonian
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Does anyone have any record of the parents of Mary Lawson of Avondale who married Thomas Scott on February 1824 also in Avondale. Any information would be greatly appreciated. 
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Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay
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nanato5
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extracted entry on igi for a mary ann lawson born 6th oct 1806 lanark glasgow,parents james lawson and mary ann armstrong,this any help,eva
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mcgilp & pringle,kilbride ,bute
mackie,fife .
brabender& pringle,glasgow
pringle&brown,& aitken,glasgow
wight,east lothian & borders.
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Bathonian
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Many thanks for that prompt reply, Eva. As you know, each brick in the wall moves you on. My connection in Scotland are just getting underway so each person helps greatly. Ken 
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Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay
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NZfitzy
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My GG grandfather was the William Scott married to Agnes Meikle.I have traced William's ancestory back to Charles 11.William's parents were Thomas (born 1802) and Mary Lawson (born 1802).Thomas's parents were William Scott (b 1770 Douglas) and Mary Hay (b 1766) Greatgranddaughter of The Marquiss of Tweeddale and Lady Jane Scott.
Cheer
Graham & Jo
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Bathonian
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Hi Graham & Jo,
Thanks for the reply, you've certainly made progress on your ancestry.
William Scott and Agness are my wife's G.G. grandparents, although I have Thomas and Mary Lawson's dob as 1806. I'd appreciate any information you might have on the ancestry.
Ken
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Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay
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NZfitzy
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Hi Ken,
The info I have shows Mary Lawson dob as 1802 and death on 14 feb 1875 at Mitchland Lesmahagow.Her husband, Thomas Scott, parents were ,William Scott b 1770 and Mary Hay b 1766. of Netherhall Farm. Mary Hay's parents are William Hay of Lawfield and Spott and Elizabeth Sinclair. His grandfather is the Marquiss of Tweeddale and her grandmother is Lady jane Scott. the rest is easily traceable
through Burkes Peerage. I don't have any more info on William Scott's background which is a harder to trace.He was apparently the coachman and ran off with Mary who was disowned for marrying below her status. Hope this is helpful.
Regards Graham and jo
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Bathonian
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Once again, thanks for the information. Every little bit helps to move the research on. It will give me something to jumpstart this part of the tree.
Ken
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Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay
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Lanark55
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Did you know Mary Lawson and her husband had 12 children, the last a daughter being born in 1846. I am a 2x gg grandson and currently live only 5 miles as the crows fly from the family farm of Netherhall at Sandilands.
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Bathonian
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Welcome to Rootschat! Mary Lawson was my wife's ggggrandmother and was related when the son William moved down to farm in Bury, Lancashire. I have Mary's birth as 1806, but this may be 4 years later. Also I have her parents as James Lawson and Mary Armstrong, the only marriage I can find on SP was in Glasgow in 1797. Do you have any information that adds to this or even changes any of my information? I'd appreciate anything you might have found out.
Regards
Ken
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Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay
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Bathonian
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Just a point that I left out, I only had 9 children listed. The last one was Hugh, b.1840, so the names and dates would be appreciated.
Thanks again
Ken
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Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay
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Lanark55
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Hi there, Children in date order:
Mary (1824), Grace (1825), William (1827), Maggie (1830), Thomas (1832), Gavin (1834), James (1836), Annie (1837), Hugh (1839), Helen (1842), Marion (1844) and Janet (1846).
Their parents and grandparents ( Mary Hay) are all buried in a Netherhall plot at St. Bride's Churchyard at Douglas, Lanarkshire. The family stone is a bit weathered to say the least but the first to names are legible. Janet Scott who married a local farmer at Douglas is also buried at St. Bride's.
LWR.
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Bathonian
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Many thanks for the list. In the 1841 census, there was also an Elizabeth, b.1829, also in the SP Grace was baptised as Grissell, b.6 Mar 1825. Did you have the date of death for Mary Hay? Her husband was William Scott, he was born in Douglas in 1770. I don't suppose you have any information on Mary Lawson's parents, James and Mary (nee Armstrong), the only marriage I can find took place in Glasgow in 1797?
Regards
Ken
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Somerset: Parfitt,Cooke,Mears,Mathews,Snooke,Badman,Ward,Hobbs.
Wilts: Hancock, Eyres, Allen,Wilmot,Carpenter,Plank, Burgess.
Dorset; Trim,Gray,Young.
Lancs: Scott,Hardman, Booth.
Carms: Morgans,Morris, Price,Thomas
Her; Ledster,Taylor,Fox,Barley, Powell,Smith
Middx: Page,Bishop.
Glam: Rees,Evans,Williams,Lewis,Hopkins,Jenkin,Hugh(es)
Cards: Evans,Davies,Jenkins
LNK: Scott, Lawson,Meikle, Bunton,Semple,Stobo,Alison, Craig, Weir, Couper,Stewart, Thomson,Draffan, Hay
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Lanark55
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Reply:
Mary Hay died 4 October 1839 according to the grave stone aged 73. (Douglas)
Grace Scott married a farmer from Selkirk.
According to my family tree, Mary Lawson was born 6 February 1794 to Gavin Lawson and Margaret Semple. They were from Lesmahagow Parish and married in March 1793. With the Scotts having a son Gavin ( born 1834) there is a strong possibilty the aforementioned were the grandparents.
Again, my tree did not have an Elizabeth but after some delving I can confirm she did exist and was married to a William Russell. She died in November 1886. Ironically she died at Ponfeigh Place Farm, Ponfeigh which was the home of her youngest sister Janet (Weir) and my great, great grandmother. As a child I lived a quarter of a mile from this farm.
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Ticadeau
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Hello. I descend from Elizabeth, daughter of William Scott and Mary Hay. The Tweeddale relationship is new to me. However, my son and I left yellow roses at Canongate Church two years ago on the anniversary of their marriage. I live near DC and would be very happy for precise location of the burial place at St. Brides. A picture of the stone would be a wonderful addition to my research and intended return to Scotland. I am not familiar with your geography and am therefore wondering about the Netherhall farm. I visited Netherton Farm, Auchenheath Lanarkshire when I was 26. Somehow, I associated it with Willliam Scott and Mary Hay. Bill Carrouthers and family were farming there at the time. Their son, Douglas may be farming there now. Any pictures would be appreciated. Elizabeth married Hugh Kirkland. Would enjoy hearing from you.
Shirley
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Lanark55
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The Scott family does get around. If you were not aware of the Tweeddale connection, then you will not be aware all descendants of Mary Hay are descended from Edward III of England. When Mary Hay married William Scott of Douglas, it cannot have been easy to be a tenanted farmer's wife when you were the grand daughter of both a Lord and a Baronet. Love must have conquered all!!!
Yes I have photographs of the Scott gravestone at Old St. Brides at Douglas. The grave is very close the family mausoleum of the Douglas family.
I notice you visited Netherton Farm. The Carruthers family no longer farm there. I see Douglas Carruthers once a month. I have never told him we are very distantly related. I have a copy of a 1970 family tree of Bess Kirkland and her husband. I knew as a child a Prof. Kirkland who lived in Lanark. I was told we were related.
Netherhall Farm at one time was on the estate of the Earl of Home and is situated near the Douglas Water and about 5 miles from my home town of the Royal burgh Of Lanark. LWR.
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