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Topic: 1886 - WILMSHURST Family onboard the "Aigburth" (Read 959 times)
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cando
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It is nice to be appreciated however it was just a matter of having the right resources and this am was far too cold in to venture outside, so what is better than sitting in a lovely warm office helping others....and beats housework any day 
Ah Sue you do much more than murmur in the background 
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Cando
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sparrett
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Hi
Back to Grace WLMSHURST.
This WW2 service record caught my eye as a possible son to DAVID and GRACE MURPHY
MURPHY, STEPHEN WILMHURST (sic) seems to have joined the Royal Australian Air Force and his number was 130874 . His birth date was 19 Feb 1909 at SYDNEY, NSW Looks like he enlisted 9 Feb 1943 on At the time of his enlistment he appears to be living at HAMILTON and he enlisted at SYDNEY, NSW His NOK shows as MURPHY, MARTHA Seems he ended his service on 17 Apr 1946and his rank thenwas Leading Aircraftman
This may possibly be his marriage
13289/1931 MURPHY, STEPHEN to WILLIAMS, MARTHA K J @MOSMAN
The MURPHY/WHILMSHURST marriage as Cando has posted took place at MOSMAN
Sue
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Parrett:Woolwich,Newington,Bermondsey,Plumstead,Middlesex, West Ham. Evans: Bermondsey. Mason: Stepney, Sydney {Aust} Disney:West Ham. Cornish: Hull {UK} to Tasmania {Aust.} to Victoria {Aust} Catchpole: Sweeting: Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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cando
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I can't see a death for Grace with parents Frederick and Mary Ann. There is this infant death 
2139/1906
MURPHY David
Father David Mother Grace
District Mosman
Australian Electoral Rolls
1930
MURPHY David 32 Carlisle Street, Rose Bay Agent
MURPHY Grace 32 Carlisle Street, Rose Bay HD
Cando
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sparrett
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Hi Janet
Reply #8 and Reply #9
Which I posted indicate 2 different occupations for FREDERICK.
They are from Electoral Roll and Post Office Directory. We do not have much censuss material available in Australia.
Sue
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Parrett:Woolwich,Newington,Bermondsey,Plumstead,Middlesex, West Ham. Evans: Bermondsey. Mason: Stepney, Sydney {Aust} Disney:West Ham. Cornish: Hull {UK} to Tasmania {Aust.} to Victoria {Aust} Catchpole: Sweeting: Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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fridayjan
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Sue,
Sorry, it's me being confused again - I should have said Electoral Rolls rather than census! 
I did wonder if the "extra" Fred on the passenger list could be a cousin or nephew emigrating with the family, but I've had a look at the eight Frederick Wilmshurst's in my tree and think I've ruled them all out. Mind you, as I'm going through all the information I found when I first started my tree two years ago, it's always possible that I may find another one who'd fit!
I'm definitely going to follow Cando's links and order the death certificate for Frederick Francis, which will hopefully give me the names of all his children.
The Stephen Wilmhurst Murphy you found certainly looks like he could fit. You wouldn't believe the number of times the S in the middle gets missed out! It's a fairly uncommon name in the my area of England and apart from immediate relatives, I'd never spoken to another Wilmshurst until a couple of weeks ago, when I made contact with a second cousin once removed.
Thanks again for your help,
Janet
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Skelly (Liverpool/Ayrshire/St Vincent)
Jones (Liverpool/Ruthin)
Mortimer (Wigan/Harrogate)
Dean (Leeds)
Wilmshurst (Liverpool/Deal)
Sides (Oswestry/Liverpool)
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tropicalj
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Good Morning Janet
I had a search of the State Records Office of NSW and there are a couple of entries there
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/
if you do an an advanced search on the names Wilmshurst you get three hits
including
In the register of firms there is
page no 486
name of firm E WILMSHURST
nature of business Marble & Slate Works
place of business 136 George Street West Sydney 12 Apr 1904 name of person carrying out business WILMSHURST, Edgar
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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tropicalj
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If you would like to see the ships manifest for the family's arrival in 1886
go to the Mariners in Australian Waters site and search WILMHURST and you will get the details down the bottom of the page is a little red rectangle thingy saying "Scan" click on that and the copy of the manifest appears,
http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/search.htm
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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tropicalj
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Did you used transcription agent for the certificates? If so they will email the certifcates to you in you request that as well 
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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tropicalj
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There also appears to be Wilmshurst?Wilmhurst in South Australia
And a rather interesting article in NSW
http://ndpbeta.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/710136?searchTerm=wilmshurst
the gest of which was that Joseph Wilmshurst and his father inlaw Frederick Furber were killed by "blacks" in 1855
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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tropicalj
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Just in case you haven’t found these
WILMHURST EDGAR died in 1937 reg no 20210 reg district Kograh
Father Frederick Francis mother Mary Ann
WILMHURST FREDERICK died in 1951 reg no 9716 district Petersham
Father Frederick Francis mother Mary Ann Martin
Jenn
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When you search for ancestors, you find great friends! I live in Townsville, Australia researching TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,, SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire, HAIR, Durham, CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire, EDSALL, Cornwall, MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER, Ireland. In Australia Hennessy, Hair, Bayley, Townsend, Shoebridge, Edsall, Adamson, All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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cando
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Hi Janet
I'm very tempted to send for some death certificates - especially Edgar with his inscription "accidentally killed" and Jessie with her "dear mother". It looks like there's a lot of information recorded on your Australian death certs!
WILMSHURST Edgar
Died 16 Jul 1937 66 years
My husband and our father, accidentally killed
Rookwood Anglican Section 12 Row 30 Grave 3690
I wonder if our lovely 'chatter Judb would have a look at the Sydney newspapers for his death/funeral notice or perhaps even a news item about his accidental death.
Jenn mentioned the WILMSHURST families in SA. There appear to be three brothers, William b.1815, Amos b.1827 and Charles b.1825 who emigrated to South Australia - 1839, 1848 and by 1851. They were the sons of William and Jemima nee TWYMAN all born Pluckley, Kent
http://www.familyhistorysa.info/shipping/passengerlists.html
WILMSHURST Amos, Mary Blacklocks n BALCOMB, My, Eliza arrived 1848-08-26 on Constance from London 1848-05-16 v Plymouth 1848-05-26
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1848Constance.htm
Name is mistranscribed.
WILMSHURST William, Sarah n SKINNER / (Augusta) arrived 1839-08-24 on Somersetshire from London
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1839Somersetshire.htm
There is a further information on these families and if you wish, I am happy to type up the info for you 
Australian Electoral Roll NSW 1903 [Not everyone enrolled unfortunately - wasn't compulsory]
WILMSHURST Catherine Alice 122 Allen Street, Leichhardt Domestic Duties
WILMSHURST Edith Martin, 122 Crystal Street, Petersham Typist
WILMSHURST Frederick 122 Crystal Street, Petersham Marble Mason
WILMSHURST Grace 52 Albany Road, Petersham Switch Attendant
WILMSHURST Jessie 52 Albany Road, Petersham Dressmaker
WILMSHURST Mary 52 Albany Road, Petersham Domestic Duties
WILMSHURST Maud 52 Albany Road, Petersham Teacher.
Australian Electoral Rolls 1930
WILMSHURST Maud 140 Albany Road, Petersham Teacher
WILMSHURST Mary Ann Martin, 140 Albany Road, Petersham Home duties
WILMSHURST Edith 140 Albany Road, Petersham Typiste
WILMSHURST Edgar 489 King Street, St Peters Marble mason
WILMSHURST Margaret 489 King Street, St Peters HD
I apologise I have made an error in the addresses of Frederick in 1903 - should be 122 Allen Street, Leichhardt but his occupation is listed as Marble Mason; and Edith Martin - should be 118 Crystal Street, Petersham. Think I need new specs 
Cheers
Cando
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cando
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A big thank you to judb, our resident library sleuth
SMH Saturday July 17, 1937
Funeral notice
WILSHURST - The relatives and friends of the late Mr Edgar WILMSHURST of 5 Hopetoun Ave, Chatswood, are informed that his funeral will leave the Newtown Funeral Parlours of W N Bull Pty Ltd THIS (Saturday) AFTERNOON at 3.30 o'clock, for the Church of England Cemetery, Rookwood. W N Bull Pty Ltd, King St, Newtown.
Death Notice
WILMSHURST - July 16, 1937 (result of accident), Edgar WILMSHURST of 5 Hopetoun Ave, Chatswood, Late of NSW Lancers' Association and Sydney Bicycle Club, beloved husband of Margaret, loving father of Frederick, Walter, Madge (Mrs J Benecke) and loving brother of Maud, Edith, nad Frederick Wilmshurst, aged 63 years. At rest.
Cheers
Cando
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