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Gadget
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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 25 June 09 11:07 BST (UK) »
Here's the Dalserf family in 1861 when 'our' Ligthbodys were in Carluke , to show that they are different families:

10 Pleasance, Dalserf
638/1 ED 6 Page 7

Lightbody
William, 55, cotton weaver
Agnes, 42
Martha, 13, cotton weaver
Jane, 11, cotton weaver
Margaret, 5


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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 25 June 09 11:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Rebecca and Gadget

From the 1851 entry in Carluke that Gadget posted, there was a baby daughter, Ann who shows as I month old b. Carluke. I think this is her entry on IGI:

ANN LIGHTBODY  Birth: 14 FEB 1851 Carluke - mother shows as Agnes Wotherspoon.

There is a death showing in 1864 in Carluke for an Agnes Lightbody/Wotherspoon.

I think the other William and Agnes couple has mother as LAMBIE:

MARGARET LIGHTBODY  Birth: 03 MAY 1856 Dalserf

The 'daughter' Agnes showing in 1871 maybe a granddaughter given Agnes' age?

Monica

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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 25 June 09 11:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica

That death of Agnes in 1864 looks a pretty good match for our Agnes. Does it give her age?

Must be off - hospital appointment  Sad

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MonicaLesl
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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 25 June 09 12:52 BST (UK) »
Age at death for that 1864 entry for Agnes is 51 so born c. 1813.

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
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Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
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Gadget
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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 25 June 09 17:25 BST (UK) »
A very good fit, Monica Smiley

i can't find a death for William,  b 1811 +/- 5 in Lanarkshire, 1861 onwards. I've used L*b*d* and Lightbody with soundex  but only one in St Rollox that doesn't fit  Sad

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Added - I took the birth range out and there is one possible:

Carluke, 1898, aged 80

A bit younger than the census ages but it's a possible.


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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 25 June 09 18:20 BST (UK) »
Just having a browse and came upon this thread ...

Gadget, according to this site - http://www.brownlee.com.au/Pages/Charts/Chart%2010145.html - William did die in 1894 1898. He and Agnes had a son named Thomas (1834 - 1914) who married a Catherine Brownlie.

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Gadget
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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 25 June 09 18:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Hume  Cheesy

That looks like him then - death is 1898 not 1894:

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, son of William Lightbody 1808-1898 and Agnes Wotherspoon 1812-1864

So Rebecca could get the death cert that I've mentioned  - 1898, Carluke, aged 80 (should be 90 according to that site)


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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 25 June 09 18:30 BST (UK) »
Yup, sorry made a mistake first time round. Embarrassed 1898 it was.

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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 25 June 09 18:32 BST (UK) »
I wonder if William remarried following Agnes' death?

There are these possible entries:

1881:

William Lightbody 69, Agricultural Labourer, b. Carnwath
Marion Lightbody 69, wife, b . Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire
James Lightbody 12, grandson, b. Carluke
Archibald Lightbody 4, grandson, b. Carluke

Address: Private House, Carluke

And this marriage showing on IGI:

WILLIAM LIGHTBODY and MARION MARTIN    
Marriage: 28 JUL 1871 in Carluke

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Gadget
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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 25 June 09 18:34 BST (UK) »
No worry, hume - we all do it at times. I'm left handed and my left fingers work faster than my right when I'm tyiping. You'll often see me typing ahve or something  Grin Grin Grin

That's a good link you've found and it should give Rebecca lots of info that she can check up on  Smiley

Looks a strong possible, Monica  Smiley
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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #25 on: Friday 26 June 09 06:03 BST (UK) »
thanks for all your help.

The two couples with Agnes and William Lightbody as parents are really confusing! Because they are born around similar areas and times.

So you guy's think that "my" William and Agnes Lightbosy are the one's with Agnes Wotherspoon? I was thinking this but then in 1851 census I realized that they had a lot of young children - so where did they go by 1861? That's when I started considering the other Lightbody family ...

Thanks  Smiley

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Gadget
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Re: William Shaw b.1857 Lanark
« Reply #26 on: Friday 26 June 09 06:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Rebecca

There are two Lightbody families - one in Dalserf and one in Carluke. The couple in Carluke is the one who have the 3 year old William Shaw living with them in 1861.


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