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caroldawn
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I am looking for a william Baileys1806 -1849parents,William married a Jane Tuck 15 March 1831 in Elm Cambridge & her fathers name was a Thomas Baker. On their marriage certificate it was signed by a Issac Bailey We were told their parents were elizabeth Bird & william Bailey but on other family trees william 1806 married someone else .Can anyone help please
Caroldawn
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Racing Girl
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Hello Caroldawn-
There are a number of William Bailey's born in Cambridgeshire in a similar time period, do you know where yours was born?
1804 BAILEY, William of Thomas & Mary Stetchworth
1804 BAILEY, William of William & Elizabeth Wicken
1806 BAILEY, William natural s. of Mary Stetchworth
1806 BAILEY, William of Mark & Susanna Wisbech, St.Ptr.
1806 BAILEY, William of Thomas & Mary Outwell
1807 BAILEY, William of John & Elizabeth Soham
1808 BAILEY, William of William & Elizabeth Stetchworth
1808 BAILEY, William of William & Ann West Wratting
1810 BAILEY, William of James & Hannah Wisbech St.Mary
I've highlighted two Williams born to Wiliiam/Elizabeth, this could account for the confusion of who married who. Is the Isaac who signed the wedding cert listed as Williams father? If he's just a witness he could have been a brother or cousin.
Cambridgeshire FHS have some online records that might be of use, they have a baptism index from 1801-1837, a death index for the same period and indexes for some of the census, look under Searchable Databases.
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trish1120
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Hi Racing Girl  ,
I think you need go go back to basics to establish the right family records. ALL the info on familysearch is submitted, not extracted from Parish Records. The marriage to Jane Tuck also. This is to be treated with caution 
To enable us to help can you;
Give us the name of which child of William Bird born abt. 1806 you are descended from.
Williams occupation
Any other census info you have for this child/marriage etc.
I also do not understand your posting; Jane Tucks father was Thomas Baker? Do you mean she was nee Baker, married a Tuck and then William Bailey?
For others interested there is a baptism of ISAAC BAILEY 1804, Wicken, with parents William Bailey and Elizabeth BIRD.
Several siblings are listed but it is a submitted record. They do not have William 1806 as a child of theirs.
Cheers,
trish
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bedfordshire boy
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The baptism of Isaac Bailey was in 1814, not 1804, and it is on the Cambs FHS baptism index, so it looks OK, notwithstanding it's a member submission on the IGI. It's unlikely though that Elizabeth Bird was named as the mother, probably just Elizabeth. The Bird name may have been added by the submitter, and this part needs checking
David
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trish1120
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Thanks for that David
Trish
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caroldawn
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hi
The william Bailey Maybe even 1804 whose parents Im looking for was a master tailor and he married Jane Tuck in Elm they were living in or around the Haughton area and I have the m as having a Charles simmers 1832, Doris 1833in wynton, Wallis Edward 1835 Robert William 1841-1843 and Lancelot 1848 The wallis Edwasrd married Harriet Kiddle 1842 of St ives and this family along with their 7 children set sail for New Zealandin 1879. These are my husbands ancestors
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trish1120
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Hi Caroldawn
I have found the family on 1841 Census. Do you have this?
1841 Census
Witton, Huntingdonshire HO107/449/7/Witton
Wiliam BAILEY, 35, tailor, born in county-yes
Jane, 30, no
Doris, 8, yes
Wallis, 6, yes
Robert, 5mths, yes
So looks like possibly our search should be in HUNTINGDONSHIRE 
Trish
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trish1120
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Submitted record 
William BAILEY
Christened, 27 April 1806, Somersham, Huntingdon
Parents, William Bailey and Mary PETERS
There is a family group record, which you can check fo yourself on this. Includes where William and Mary are born,married, and William 1806 siblings names.
You would still need to have this checked.
Trish
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trish1120
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Birth reg;
Lancelot Bailey
September 1846
St Ives 14 201
St Ives reg area is on the border of Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire
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trish1120
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I am having trouble finding family 1851. But have found William and Mary, possible parents of William 1806;
1851 Census
18 High Street HO107/1749/191/5
Somerham, Huntingdonshire
William BAILEY, head, mar, 73, ag lab, born Northamp-Corby
Mary, wife, mar, 66, born Hunts Somersham
Jane AYRES, daug,39, widow, charwoman, Hunts/Somerham
Rebecca Ayres, grand/dau, 12, scholar, born as above
John Ayres, 10
Robert Ayres, 4
Emma BAILEY, grand/dau, unm, 22, Hunts Somerham
This seem to work with Familysearch record as William has sister Jane born 1812 on it.
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caroldawn
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thanks you are all so good to me over here in nZ what a great start
caroldawn
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trish1120
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Hi Caroldawn;
I grew up in NZ 
1851 Census
25 Huntingdon Road
Witton, Huntingdonshire
Jane BAILEY, head, mar, 42, Publican, born Middlesex, London
Doris (indexed as Davis), daug, unm, 18
Wallis, son, unm, 15
Lancelott, son, unm, 4
Has children as all born Witton, Hunts
So where is William? Away working ? And Robert with Dad?
Now Janes POB does not tally with 1841 and family group record. Could William have married twice to a Jane? or is it just a mistake?
And Charles, 1832, I feel must have died before 1841 Census.
I will keep working on this but at some stage will need to move this to Huntingdonshire board to have everything checked with Parish Records etc.
Trish
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trish1120
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Can I ask where the info for Jane Tuck/Fathers name Thomas Baker came from?
I think it is possible William married 2 Janes.
Trish
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caroldawn
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William and son Charles died about 1849-1850. I know there was an eperdemis of Cholera around at that time and think he succumbered to it.his wife Jane married again George Taunter and they lived in Haughton. Ive seen in family search where he married Jane Tuck but thomas baker may only have been a stepfather
where were you born
Caroldawn
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trish1120
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Thanks for that. I have learnt to ask as sometimes hours are spent searching to them only find people know they died
EDIT, just realised you stated he died 1849ish in first posting 
I have one AMAZING census entry for you
First; Jane AYRES nee Bailey on 1851 with parents, went on to marry Edward PEACOCK in St Ives, December 1860, 3b 606
1881 Census
83 Main Street, Somerham, Hunts
Mary BAILEY, 100 , widow, no occupation, born Somerton
Jane PEACOCK, daug, widow, 68, no occp., Somerton
Death;
Mary BAILEY
December 1881
St Ives, 3b 183
Aged 102
I grew up in Hamilton 
Trish
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