comfort
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hi
i dont think i have much chance with this request but thought i would give it a try,
i have a
elizabeth mcnamara born 1855 ireland
she came to live in lancashire with her parents,
there names at this point i dont know
elizabeth married anthony nixon in 1873 haslingden
the thing i am trying to find out about is
elizabeths father ,was murded between rochdale and bacup.
he was a dance school teacher,
i have worked it out he must have died between 1858 and 1860,
i have been told that the bacup archives have information on the murder,
but i dont live anywhere near so cant get there.
so i was hoping someone might have heard of the story,
just thought it worth asking even though i have so little information
any help would be appreciated
thank you
patricia,
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lizdb
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If you get Elizabeths marriage cert if will give you thename of her father.
Jan/FEb/Mar 1873
Haslingden ref 8e 209
Anthony Malley Nixon
one of brides Elizabeth McNamara
I'm slightly bemused that you know all about his occupation and his untimely demise, but not know his name!
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lizdb
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From the info given I think I found them in 1881
RG11 4157 89 17
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Ruskie
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I found Elizabeth, mother Julia and siblings (minus father) in the 1871. Patricia do you have the family in the censuses? I imagine you must as you have worked out the timespan that the father died. Elizabeth's youngest brother appears to be James aged 13 in 1871 and born Ireland, as is the rest of the family.
I think lizdb's suggestion of buying the marriage cert of Elizabeth is your best bet. 
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lizdb
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1871
RG10 4133 82 17
Back Irwell Street, Newchurch
Julia 45 widow housekeeper
Mary 23 dtr kept by family blind from ? yrs something
Sarah 21 dtr cotton operative
Thomas 19 son "
Elizabeth 16 dtr
all bn Ireland
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comfort
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just like to say thank you for all the help
it is very much appreciated, i have just sent an email to the bacup archives to see if it is possible for me to pay someone to find the information,on the murder.
thank you again
patricia
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Ruskie
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I'm having problems locating the same family in 1861 ... perhaps they were still in Ireland?
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Ruskie
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Would it be likely that the murder was reported in the newspapers? Some people have access to newspapers - I used to but am unsure if I still do. 
I'll have a dig around ...
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comfort
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hi
i was told it was in the news paper but which one i have no idea,
i have just been speaking to elizabeths granddaughter to see if she can remember anything more but the only thing she said was that it was something to do with his religion, he was a catholic,and she still cant remember his name
so i didnt push her,
thank you
patricia.
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Ruskie
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I'm sorry Patricia - I managed to find the Times Digital Archive but couldn't find any mention of the case. You probably need to find a more local newspaper that is bound to have covered the story.
Someone with local knowledge might be able to help you.
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comfort
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hi
thank you very much for going to so much trouble
it is very much appreciated
if i find anything i will let you know
thank you again
patricia.
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lizdb
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If they need his name to look this up for you (as I expect they will, or at least it might make it easier) then remember reply 1 - it should be on the marriage cert!
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comfort
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hi
thanks
i have made a note of that.
good thinking
thanks again
patricia,
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