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Ermintrude46
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Bear with me, this is a bit long winded - John HINTON, born around 1780, gives his place of birth as Rushock in the 1851 and the 1861 censuses but he does not appear in the parish records for this tiny place where there were only a handful of baptisms and burials a year. There is a baptism recorded in Rushock of a Samuel HINTON with parents John and Elizabeth in August 1785. Then, on 21 April 1786, John Hinton of Rushock is convicted at Worcester quarter sessions of stealing a three tined fork, a hacker and a plane from Joseph Bellamy, farmer, also of Rushock, which he admits and John is sentenced to be whipped in Worcester town centre on the following Saturday. This must surely be Samuel’s father but is it also John’s father?
The next I know for sure is that John HINTON marries Elizabeth CARTER at Hampton Lovatt in 1812. Now, the parish records for Hampton Lovatt also record the burial of a John HINTON (no age given) on 25/8/1786, the baptism of an illegitimate son, Samuel HINTON, to an Elizabeth HINTON(no marital status given) on 8/12/1790 and the marriage of Elizabeth HINTON (no marital status given) and William ALBUT on 26/12/1791.
So, I’m working on a theory that John (the villain!) and Elizabeth make a hasty exit from Rushock after his conviction/whipping and turn up in Hampton Lovatt where no-one knows them or their past. When John dies a few months later, Elizabeth takes comfort elsewhere and eventually marries William ALBUT who may or may not be the father of her son, Samuel, who is named after an earlier son that died (maybe!). Meanwhile, her other surviving son, John, grows up in Hampton Lovett and eventually marries a local girl, Elizabeth CARTER – how feasible does this sound to you, not much evidence so far, but I’m liking it as a possibility! Samuel HINTON of Hampton Lovett joined the army in 1812, serving in the 8th Foot regiment, and was discharged to a pension in 1837, aged 46. His army record is at Kew so this is another lead to follow up at some point, maybe his army record will give next of kin or other details (maybe!). Any other suggestions very welcome!
Ermy
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andyb1963
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Ermintrude46
I was interested to read your post re the Hinton family. The John Hinton who married Elizabeth Carter is my wife's 3x great grandfather. I was also interested that you had found this marriage in the Hampton Lovett parish register. I must have missed it when I was looking at the Worcestershire Library and History Centre. Clearly I wasn't paying attention at the time! If nothing else your post will close another loop, so thank you for that.
Not too sure about your theory though. I don't think the ages work out, but it's late and I've been up since 0530!
Thanks again
Andyb1963
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Ermintrude46
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Hi Andy,
John Hinton and Elizabeth Carter are my 3xgreat-grandparents as well! They were married at Hampton Lovett on 3 Feb 1812 and Elizabeth is shown as "of Severn Stoke". They had the following children, mostly baptised at Hampton Lovett where the abode is shown as "Upper Hall":
Thomas bp. 17/12/1812, Hampton Lovett
Harriet bp. 19/10/1814, St Andrew’s Droitwich
John bp. 19/11/1815, St Andrew’s Droitwich
Elizabeth bp. 8/2/1818, Hampton Lovett
William bp. 15/10/1819, Hampton Lovett
Caroline bp 14/2/1822, Hampton Lovett
Mary bp. 23/10/1825, Hampton Lovett
James bp. 4/11/1827, Hampton Lovett
Jane bp. 10/1/1830, Hampton Lovett
Samuel bp. 27/1/1833, Elmbridge
The eldest son, Thomas, was admitted to Droitwich Lunatic Asylum on 23 Jan 1841 and died there, of apoplexy, on 8 Mar 1842. Second son John, married Sarah Maria Smith at Claines on 30 Apr 1838 and stayed in the Hampton Lovett/Broad Alley area. James was buried at Hampton Lovett on 8 Aug 1851. John and Elizabeth Hinton had moved away to Little Comberton by 1851, with their youngest children. Jane married Charles Davis in 1849 died shortly afterwards in childbirth. Samuel married Francis Holder in 1855 and remained in Little Comberton with his family.
John and Elizabeth lived well into old age and were buried in Little Comberton - their gravestone is close to the path to the church door. It's not in wonderful condition but it is possible to make out that John died 4 Jul 1866 "aged 87 years" and Elizabeth died 24 Mar 1865. Samuel, his wife Francis and their daughters Selina and Harriett Maria along with Jane Davis and her infant daughter Louisa are buried alongside them.
I am descended from John and Elizabeth's fourth child, William Hinton. I haven't been able to find William on either the 1841 or 1851 census. He came south and married Harriet Curtis in Britford, Wiltshire on 26 Aug 1852. William was a gentleman's servant in Bentworth, Hampshire until around 1877 when the rector he was working for died and my branch of the Hintons then relocated to London. Be very interested to hear where your wife fits in and to discuss the 'theory' further. One thing I particularly like about it is that the entries for John Hinton's death, Elizabeth Hinton's illigitmate son and then her marriage are the ONLY Hinton entries in the Hampton Lovett parish records apart from a single baptism in 1700 and the later baptisms for John and Elizabeth Hinton given above!
Ermy
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Chalker / Glyde / Morris / Pitman / Stroud (Dorset)
BARTON / Heasman / Wheatley (East Sussex)
Baby / Silver / Silvester (Hampshire)
Cheeseman / JONES / Wood (Kent)
Chalker (Somerset)
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andyb1963
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Hi Ermy
Your message filled in quite a few more details for me. I've done a bit of research into the Hinton family at the Worcester Library and History Centre, although clearly nowhere near the amount that you have.
Moving down the generations, my wife is descended from the John Hinton/Sarah Maria Smith, John Hinton/Alice Colley, Martin Hinton/Gertrude Jones line. I have a copy of those marriage entries from the various parish registers. I didn't know that John and Elizabeth Hinton had a headstone so I may take a trip out to little Comberton as I live in the county. My wife will be thrilled to know that this exists.
If you want to correspond further, perhaps a personal message would be more appropriate. More than happy to share any info I have that you haven't come across. Have to go now as I have a 0530 start tomorrow.
Andy
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rhem
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Hi
Very interested in the Hinton information with lots of blanks filled in.
John/Sarah Maria were my g.g.grandparents. My great grandfather was their son James, born in 1852.He worked on the railways and in the 1871 census was living with his brother's (Samuel) family in Castle Church Stafford. He married Harriett Blakeman from Stafford and then seemed to move back and forth between Worcs and Staffs. In 1911 he was in the Worcester Workhouse and died in 1921.
Their daughter Sarah Jane Hinton, my grandmother spent most of her time in the Birmingham/smethwick area, although she died in 1959 in Worcester.
I can't find any record from 1881 so if anyone has any info that would be appreciated.
Ron
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andyb1963
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Ron
Thanks for filling in some more blanks. I have a transcript from the Droitwich Guardian of Samuel Hinton's son, John's death in an accident in 1919 whilst employed at the Mitchells and Butlers brewery. I also have a copy of John and Sarah Maria's marriage entry from the Claines Parich Register in 1838.
If you would like a copy of either, please PM me and I'll happily email them to you.
Andy
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rhem
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Andy
Thanks for reply.
I would appreciate any docs, However I am new to Rootschat so still trying to work out how to PM !
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andyb1963
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I've PM'ed you! Just reply to that one
Andy
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