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Hubert Burluraux
« on: Friday 24 July 09 11:30 UTC (UK) »
Hi there I have recieved a marraige certificate for Hubert who married in England

I have found him on the 1861 census but cannot find him anywhere else  it just says France as place of bith

I have looked for him in the 1871 census but no sign of him or his wife or children

if they went to to and fro to France would it be recorded anywhere?

He died in England in 1874

thanks
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 July 09 12:59 UTC (UK) »
It would not be recorded in England - they didn't keep records for ships coming too/from Europe.

So I see Hubert married in Leeds in 1859 - who was his father? Who were the witnesses to the marriage, and what was the address?
There was a "Sibastian" who married in 1854 - brother?  He appears to have naturalised in 1876 ("Burluraux, Sebastian"), this could be a very good clue to the family's origins.

They were in the 1871 census, they are in Leeds at RG10/4554 folio 4 page 1
Name looks like Buluraure
Hubert, 45, shop keeper hawker, b. France
Sushana, 33, b. Leeds
Lucy A, 11, b. Leeds
Sebastian, 9, b. Leeds
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 July 09 13:36 UTC (UK) »
Hi thank you

I dont understand folios thingy´s i have Ancestry and just go through all the names that get put up

the witnesses were her sister and her husband the corkers
His father Francis Basket maker

The address was her from her family home Marsh lane ( family lived there since 1837) him from Broad Street

They had a stall in the market in 1888 under Susannahs name

Sabastian I dont know about  Hubert had a son sabastian he left to go to america in 1905

I will check out the other sebastian thank you for that
I dont understand where to look for naturalation going on¨s never had to deal with it before

thanks again for the clues

Polly x
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 July 09 14:00 UTC (UK) »
How old was Hubert in 1861?
There are many BURLURAUX in the department of Meuse, France...
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 July 09 14:22 UTC (UK) »
Hi

he was born 1826 which would make him 35 in 1861

I was just checking  Meuse on the map

His father was a basket maker in france too

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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 July 09 14:40 UTC (UK) »
I found there :
http://gw0.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=dn&lang=fr;alwsurn=yes;p=hubert;n=burluraux;oc=1
http://gw0.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=dn&lang=fr&m=N&v=BURLURAUX

Hubert BURLURAUX, basket maker, born around 1828,
married 17 February 1848 in Rupt-en-Woëvre, 55449, Meuse, Lorraine, France
with Catherine Virginie JACQUET, born ca 1827
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 July 09 14:50 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Yes I saw that too and I was wondering if he was married before he is down as single on the wedding certificate  he was also 38  when he married in england i thought he might of married before

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 July 09 14:53 UTC (UK) »
There should be somewhere in Ancestry to input piece/folio numbers for the census. Alternatively, try searching just by first name; a name like Burluraux would be easily misspelt by the enumerator or subsequently mistranscribed.

You can search for (and order) naturalisations from the NA:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/
(just search on surname).

The Burluraux families in the area b. France seem to be
Sebastian, b. abt 1830, m. 1854 in Leeds, lived in Huddersfield in 1861-1881 (on 1881 he is S. Burluraux). D. 1884 in Doncaster.  In 1861 he was listed as "Basket Merchant"
Also Joseph N. (b. about 1825, basket manufacturer) and his cousin August (b. abt 1837, basket maker), both living in Leeds in 1871.  Joseph is still in Leeds in 1881.
then there's Hubert.

It seems likely that these folks were all related.

ETA: But that Hubert on geneanet has father Pierre, and from the wedding certificate it is Francis?
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 July 09 15:01 UTC (UK) »
Hi

yes my GGgrandfather was on the 1871 census with Joseph and August  william Hodgson it was his aunt who married Hubert and Alphonso collignon married his niece he was in the house too (wrong age but it is him)

I was thinking sebastion went to Huddersfield and hubert went to Leeds and with the name like Burluraux they must be related and I have found that Collignon was involved in the family to by marrage in France so it looks like they kept it in the family

thanks for your help much appreciated
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #9 on: Friday 24 July 09 15:34 UTC (UK) »
http://www.axxr75.dsl.pipex.com/bennett_burluraux/index.html
 - this person has info on Sebastians family from Rupt en Woëvre, perhaps she knows Hubert's connection?
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #10 on: Friday 24 July 09 15:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi

i am just at the archives looking for the nationalisation papers that you found

and i have made contact with margaret very nice lady i sent her all i have and she seems to think there is no link to Hubert as they were not basket makers in france but she is still on the case( so to speak)

thanks again
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #11 on: Friday 24 July 09 16:19 UTC (UK) »
I found the document but it wont let me buy it!!!!

how frustrating
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Re: Hubert Burluraux
« Reply #12 on: Friday 24 July 09 16:22 UTC (UK) »
I contacted the Frenchman whos tree it was on as he has collignon in his tree as well

so we will wait and see

Smiley
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