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totally leics
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Searching for Redshaw roots
« on: Tuesday 23 June 09 20:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi folks,
         
         I'm hoping someone might be able to help give some information to kickstart this search, but I've only limited facts to go on so it might be a longshot!
          My partner's family come from the Ashington area, but all she knows is that her grandfather was John Robert Redshaw born c1891 and that he was married and living in Pegswood early in the 20th century. The only other fact she has is that he was brought up by his grandparents, but she does not know which village!! Roll Eyes
            With this limited info I'm far from expecting miracles, but any glimmer of help would be much appreciated. Smiley

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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 20:59 UTC (UK) »

From freeBMD

Birth
Jul/Aug/Sep 1891
Morpeth Reg District ref 10b 381
John Robert Redshaw
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 21:03 UTC (UK) »

1901
RG13 4837 219 3

Ulgham

Jane Patten 54 bn Spittel
Archibald son 19 Coal Miner Hewer bn Rudeliffe?
Margaret 17 dtr  bn Rudeliffe?
John R Redshaw 9  grandson  bn Stobound?

sorry  I dont know the area so cant guess the birthplaces with any intelligence! and the writing is dire.
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 21:09 UTC (UK) »

1891
R12 4260 120 23

Stottswood, Ulgham

Archibald Patton 48 Coal Miner bn Scotland
Jane 41 wife bn Spittal
Robert 20 Coal Miner bn Brookhill
Mary 19 bn Brookhill
Elizabeth J 14 bn Radcliffe  (ah thats what it was!)
Archibald 10 bn Radcliffe
Margaret 7 bn radcliffe
Robert mcLoud visitor 21 coal miner bn Spittal
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 21:12 UTC (UK) »

Marriage

Ap/May/Jun 1891
Morpeth reg distr ref 10b 581

Mary Patten
one of grooms on same page - Adam Redshaw
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 21:16 UTC (UK) »

I wonder why John was brought up by grandparents.

here are Adam and Mary in 1901

RG13 4838 85 12
Long Rd South radcliffe, Hauxley
Adam Redshaw 32 Coal Miner Hewer bn Alnwick
Mary 29 wife bn Broomhill
Archibold P 8 bn Amble
Jane 5 bn Amble
Margaret 2 bn Amble
Adam 6mths bn Radcliffe
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 21:26 UTC (UK) »

Hello
1911 census index has

John Robert Redshaw 19 yrs. b. 1892
  Morpeth Dist.  Northumberland

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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 21:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lizdb, you're a star! Thats quite some info to be getting started on. My partner knows a few of the places you've found; Ulgham,and I think it may be Stobswood and Radcliffe, they are all in that area and not far from where her late mother lived in Lynemouth. Cannot thank you enough. Smiley
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 21:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sally,

       Many thanks, we think that John Robert Redshaw would be the gt grandfather as my partner's grandfather was apparently the eldest child. We think JR the younger moved in with his grandparents because there were subsequently so many younger siblings.  Smiley   TL
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Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 22:05 UTC (UK) »

Correction to previous message.  Roll Eyes  Sally, that John Redshaw is, as you're probably aware the grandfather. I'm now told Adam Redshaw is the gt grandfather, but the rest stands as true.
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 22:49 UTC (UK) »



Maybe my own experience of living in a colliery village ( Bebside, near Blyth) might provide a clue why John R Redshaw lived in the home of ( I am avoiding the term "brought up by") his granny.

On 1901 census, column 7 records number of rooms occupied in the house.

The six Redshaws in Long Row South,Radcliffe,  had ONE room.
Widow Jane and three others in Stobswood Colliery had TWO rooms. Maybe she could have even taken young Adam in as well !

My cousin as a child in late 1940 was accommodated by a childless aunt. I myself left my crowded family's house to live with my granny .  All to do with space.

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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 23:09 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Michael,

           One of the great things about this type of research is not only tracing family lines, but finding out more about how people lived their lives and how choices are made sometimes through necessities. Having traced some of my own family homes , and knowing how many there were in the family unit I often wonder how they fitted in though I freely admit as far as I know they never needed to cope with just one or two rooms. It all helps make our ancestors far more than just names doesn't it?   TL
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Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 23:26 UTC (UK) »

 I lived in a "miner's cottage" from my birth in 1941 . It really was a hovel, infested with mice, concrete floors, leaking roof, no water (tap 50 yards down back lane), no electricity and an outside "earth closet" also mice infested.

But we had gas and plenty of coal.  The house had 2 up 2 down. Parents slept in front room, so front door was never used/opened. We "lived" in the kitchen  Upstairs two brothers in one bedroom, widowed grannie and I shared bed in other bedroom ( Oh dear just remembered- me a serial bed-wetter- Sorry Grannie- I think they used a protective sheet made from bits of a barrage balloon lol )

When Bebside pit died in 1953, we were rehoused to modern housing ( two flushing toilets) and old pit village totally demolished.

My brothers and I used to wonder at our father when he used to bemoan the  coldness of new estate, wishing to be back in the friendly old place... crazy man.


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Ontario, CANADA
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 23:32 UTC (UK) »

Michael that is fascinating.  Smiley
I hope they have preserved some of the old miner'c cottages. They are of great historical significance. I know about Beamish, but would like to see a preserved (not renovated) mining village. Do any exist?
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 23:47 UTC (UK) »



Ruskie,

Well the houses of my birth-colliery were literally demolished. I do not know of any preserved miners homes.

In the 1870s, a reporter of a Newcastle newspaper visited a colliery village every week for nearly two years. Articles called "Our Colliery Villages", painting a picture of mining village life.

First article was on Seghill Colliery... Fred111 posted a recent request for info on Seghill housing.... I am about to post some quotes in reply... you may find the reporters observations and views of interest.

Michael
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GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND
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