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Ruskie
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 23:59 UTC (UK) »

(Sorry for going a bit off topic totally leics)

Thanks Michael, yes, I will have a look at the Seghill post. I vaguely remember reading something about reports of the families living in colliery housing - I wonder if it was "Our Colliery Villages" that you mention. It spoke in a fair amount of detail about the lives of the people.

It is a shame that no miner's cottages have been preserved. I imagine it would have been an interesting and educational school trip/tourist drawcard especially if a whole village and mine had also been preserved and tours could be taken (I think there is a mine is Wales? where this is possible).

It's the kind of thing I would love to visit to see how my mining ancestors lived.  Smiley
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 09:41 UTC (UK) »

( ditto apologies to totally leics)

The Northumberland County Record Office shares a complex that is within the colliery yard of Woodhorn Pit, with stables, wheel house, lamp house etc.

MD
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GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 16:41 UTC (UK) »

No apologies needed folks, am finding all this background information equally interesting. 
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 25 June 09 22:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi folks,

       I'm looking for a bit more info, but fortunately have more background this time. Have traced Chatham Redshaw (born Elsdon 1833) to Turkshead Yard, Alnwick with his wife Jane (born North Sunderland c1846) and family in 1881. I cannot, however, find his marriage which surprises me given his first name. Also is Turkshead Yard still in existence does anybody know? Any info gratefully received.

                                                   TL
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Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 25 June 09 22:32 UTC (UK) »



Marriage Registration June Qtr 1861 : Rothbury Reg District ( in which Elsdon lay)  Jonathon Redshaw m. Jane Armstrong.

The clue that his name was not Chatham was the fact that he only showed up on one census (1881) as Chatham.

Michael Dixon
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Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 25 June 09 22:37 UTC (UK) »

TL, Do you have Chatham in any other censuses?

Reason I ask is that I found the family in 1881 but couldn't see Chatham on the image because I read his first name as Jonathan.  Undecided

I may be completely wrong here. He is transcribed as Chatham.

Can someone else please have a look - maybe I'm seeing things.  Grin

Oh Michael you beat me to it.  Wink
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 25 June 09 22:40 UTC (UK) »

I originally thought that 1861 marriage may have been too early, but it looks like Jane might have been a child bride.  Wink
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 25 June 09 23:01 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Michael and Ruskie,

                      Sounds like Jane was in domestic service if she was married so young and a fair way north of Sunderland, or maybe I'm just creating my own storyline here! Roll Eyes

                       Wonder how the Chatham bit got in there?Still intrigued by the 1881 address, almost sounds like a pub name. Smiley
                                     TL

                               
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Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 25 June 09 23:07 UTC (UK) »

Someone has mistranscribed the name Jonathan - they obviously thought they saw Chatham.  Undecided  Can't see it myself ...

Michael might know something about Turkshead Yard. A Google search throws very little up. My guess is that it'll be long gone ...
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 25 June 09 23:09 UTC (UK) »

TL,

It is a Pub, look higher up the page on C1881. Bondgate was/is one of main streets of Alnwick. The Turks Head was on Bondgate. Turks Head Yard would have been a yard thru to the back of the pub, with a few residences.

Sunderland was in County Durham. Jane was born in North Sunderland, in the county of Northumberland.


I don't understand your logic about "in domestic service". Why not track her through the censuses to see !

Michael
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GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 25 June 09 23:10 UTC (UK) »

 C1871 has her born a year earlier than the c1881.  MD
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GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 25 June 09 23:13 UTC (UK) »

hello,
I think the name chatham was just wrongly transcribed. It looks like Jonathan in the 1881 census to me.
the 1871 census Biddlestone,
( RG 10/ 5196) shows
Jonathan and Jane age 26 with children
Andrew 9
ann 4
Adam 3
Eleanor 2
that would make her 17 when her first child was born in 1872, I think.
Sally
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HENDERSON - Bellingham/Hexham/Allendale/Birtley
BROWN - Bellingham/Simonburn/Lanercost CUL/
NOBLE - Morpeth/Longhirst
GIBSON - Elsdon/Warden
FERGUSON - St. John Lee
MARTIN - Haltwhistle/
SNOWDEN - Haltwhistle/
HOOD - Scotland
CALVERT - Lanercost CUL
NIXON - Bewcastle CUL
FORRESTER - Stapleton,Lanercost CUL
COCKWELL - DEV
SQUARE - DEV
CROSS - DEV
BORN - DEV
YORKE - Cambridgeshire/Sussex
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 25 June 09 23:21 UTC (UK) »

TL,
I rediscovered this site last night and thought you might find something of general interest:
http://www.keystothepast.info/k2p/usp.nsf/pws/Keys+to+the+past+-+Home+Page

Moving on from Michael confirming that the Turkshead was a pub - you can often have an educated guess at where a residence was by looking at the neighbours. You can walk around the neighbourhood looking for streets and other landmarks that may still exist today and compare an old map of the area to a map of today, sometimesyou even get a birds eye view.  Smiley
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #28 on: Friday 26 June 09 00:09 UTC (UK) »

 I think I was just allowing myself a flight of fancy re the domestic service Michael, it certainly wasn't logic based I fully concede. Smiley
I seem to have located Jonathan's father Josiah as an unemployed shepherd living with his wife Ann, and again a grandchild ,this time a Sarah T Redshaw. I've got his d.o.b as 28/Sep/1808 at Falstone, but living at Harnham in 1881 which I cannot locate or maybe its getting late and I cannot see for looking.        TL Wink
   
  PS  thanks for pub info, I'm trying to learn to broaden my methodology of search.                                                             
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Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs,  Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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Re: Searching for Redshaw roots
« Reply #29 on: Friday 26 June 09 01:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ruskie,

Really must thank you for introducing me to that site, I can see myself coming back to it again and again, its very useful and interesting. Have located Harnham, it seems to have been a collection of small settlements between Capheaton and Whalton, probably still is. My lack of geographical knowledge of Northumberland is on a sharp learning curve indeed,  as witnessed by my earlier confusion with North Sunderland (though in truth I've been to nearby Seahouses so can offer no real excuse!) Had retired for the night, but couldn't settle without one more try. Glad I did!
Anyway thanks again.  Smiley    TL
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Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs,  Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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