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SMOOTHIE
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My great grandfather James Millar was born in 1883. I discovered on the 1911 England census he was born in Grahmston. I persume this is Grahmston, Sterling. I looked up the birth records on scotlandspeople and can not find anyone listed as being born in 1883/1884 in the district of Grahamston.
Is Grahamston the 'district' or have I got this wrong? All I know about him, is his fathers name was George Millar.
If anyone can help my solve a long family mystery I would be very very greatful.
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CaroleW
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Hi
Does the 1911 entry say Scotland Grahmston or just Grahmston
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andycand
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Hi
Scotlandspeople index doesn't have a Registration District called Grahamston but the Grahamston, Stirlingshire one could be in Falkirk. On a previous topic you spelt it as Grahamstone, what exactly did the 1911 census say? Also, was he head of the Household?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,388420.msg2601235.html#msg2601235
You mention his fathers name was George, was that from his marriage certificate? If so, are James surname and age a constant.
Andy
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SMOOTHIE
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Hello Andy,
Sorry for the spelling mistake.
On the 1911 English Census he was living in Newcastle Upon Tyne. He lists himself as being born in Grahamston, Scotland, nationality British. He writes that he is 28 and head of the household. His age is consistent with his wedding certificate, which lists his fathers name as George Millar (deceased).
I looked up the birth records for 1883. There is a James listed under SLAMANNAN, STIRLING but it is not him. The other James, listed under Haggs is not him either. I checked the 1884 records and there are James listed under KILSYTH, and ST NINIANS but I don't think Grahamston is in these places. Its difficult to find anything out about Grahamston- all I can see are lots of references to its railway station and that it is in Falkirk.
Thanks
Martine
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andycand
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Hi
The 1911 census was taken on the 2nd April 1911 so if he gave his age as 28, and if its accurate, then his date of birth would be between 3rd April 1882 and 2nd April 1883. You should be able to narrow it down further from his marriage certificate but the problem is, as many of us have found, ages on various documents are quite often out by a year or two.
What was James occupation on both the 1911 census and his marriage certificate and what was his fathers? This might help to find them in an earlier census
Andy
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SMOOTHIE
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Just to say a very belated big thanks for everyones help and advice. I hadn't realised that there had been replies to my posts. My great grandfather James Millar was in the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders before WW1. He then left Scotland and fought in WW1 in he Northumberland fusiliers. We do not know when or why he left Scotland and I have not been able to get to London to look for any military records. I thought with him being in the Argyll and Sutherland highlanders it was more likely that he came from Stirling. However, I am just guessing. Lemon Nelly- any ideas about how I can search for his records in your area? I just know the year of his birth and his father’s name, which is common- George Millar. I don't even know if he had any siblings
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Lemon Nelly
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Hi Smoothie, his military records should be on Ancestry, I would have looked it up for you but I let my membership lapse at Christmas. Not sure if you have used Scotlands people to find the birth cert? Falkirk archives are very helpful, but if he left to live in England it is probably going to be minimal the help you would get there, though if you have anything specific you feel they can help with I can go there. The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders base is at Stirling castle, but people from a wide area including Falkirk would have joined them.
If the Grahamston you are looking for is indeed in Falkirk it is a small area, but I think untill you find the right birth cert you will always be unsure
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SMOOTHIE
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Thanks Lemon Nelly. The story goes that I got his Dads name from his marriage certificate. My brother (many years ago) sent off for his birth certificate. I can't remember how many years either side they searched but they said they could not find any match. I waited until the 1901 census came out and found out he was from Grahamston. I then found out there was two Grahamston’s and other members on this site said there are more than two. I went on Scotland’s people but couldn't find anything. You seemed to have to know the district, which he lived in, but I don't. I can find some James Millars but I can’t tie the record to him.
I couldn't find any matching records on the ancestory military search. Lots of James Millar’s in the regiment but the ages don’t match. I can see they have updated some records, but I am no longer a member so will have to ask someone to search again. When I contacted his regiment in Scotland they said I would need to go to London to look up the records. So frustrating. I have pictures of him in his Northumberland uniform and lots of other stuff but I just can’t find out where he came from or who his family is! He still remains a mystery after years of searching.
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SMOOTHIE
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Lemon Nelly. Here is one topic that you and the any kind others can help me with. I looked up the people porn in 1883 called James Millar and there are 23. One was born in SLAMANNAN/STIRLING and the other HAGGS/STIRLING. Should I be expecting to see Grahamston/STIRLING or is Grahamston a district of a place such as HAGGS? Neither is him btw. I don't want to start paying for the Glasgow records until I can clear up the district issue. I can't find any reference to Grahamston.
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DDJJake
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This may be your James ...
James Miller - [N.B. Millar on his Medal Card]
Birth Place and Residence - Wallsend-On-Tyne
Died - 1 Jul 1916
Rank - Private Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers
Battalion - 21st Battalion (Tyneside Scottish).
Number - 21/152 Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War- 'Aldershot' e.g. France
If this is your James, I can send you the image of his WWI Medal Card after we exchange e-mail addresses.
DDJ
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Auchmutie, Ingles, Henderson, Patrick, Moffat, Collier, Hunter, McLeod et al in Fife, Scotland
Nicoll in Angus, Scotland
Cuthbert, Hendry in Perth, Scotland
Telfer, Telford, Maclaren in Stirlingshire, Renfrewshire, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Richardson in Lochmaben, Dumfries
Kerr in Midlothian
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