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Davidjnr
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 09 July 09 19:42 UTC (UK) »
I have searched FreeBMD.org and have located only three Wiliam Taylors born in Stockport between Jun 1855 and Dec 1857.

Births Jun 1855
Taylor    William       
Stockport    8a   36    

Births Dec 1855
Taylor    William       
Stockport    8a   19    

Births Dec 1857
TAYLOR    William Thomas       
Stockport    8a   16

The census however say he was born in Nantwich.
Births Jun 1856
Taylor    William
Nantwich    8a   *4   

Which do you suppose is the right one?
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heywood
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 09 July 09 20:51 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Davidjnr on Thursday 09 July 09 19:28 UTC (UK)
Hi,

Can someone please help me locate Williams father William Wheeldon Taylor and the birth certificate of William jnr.

I have William Jnr on the 1881 Census
Class: RG11; Piece: 3902; Folio: 72; Page: 22; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341932.
His birth date: abt 1856
Birth place: Stockport, Cheshire, England
Residence date: 1881
Residence place: Gorton, Lancashire, England

I can't seem to locate him in 1891 but have in 1901:
Class: RG13; Piece: 3688; Folio: 66; Page: 26.
Birth date: abt 1857
Birth place: Northwich, Cheshire, England
Residence date: 1901
Residence place: Gorton, Lancashire, England


Hi Dave,
how are you? Do you recall - Caroline is Agnes in 1891 so they are here:
RG12; Piece: 3171; Folio 136; Page 18
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 09 July 09 20:55 UTC (UK) »
Sorry I have that on my Ancestry tree information my mistake.

Dave
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heywood
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 09 July 09 21:20 UTC (UK) »
Well - another puzzle  Wink

He's not the one born Nantwich because he shows up in other censuses.  Sad
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 09 July 09 21:43 UTC (UK) »
Phew I am getting better at my investigations then as I thought about trying to eliminate the others and the William in Nantwich didn't match :-)

Your teachings have been good.

We know William jnr's father is William Wheeldon Taylor as it was found on the parish details for William and Agnes.

Marriage: March 20th 1880 St James Gorton
William Taylor 24 yrs Bachelor; a labourer of Gorton
Father: William Wheeldon Taylor, a labourer.

His birth though is a real puzzle as I need the correct one to order his birth certificate to determine his mother!

Dave
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heywood
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 09 July 09 22:28 UTC (UK) »
It's a really difficult one this- I remember the name looked like Wheeldon and I asked someone to check with me who agreed but now I am wondering  Huh

Mind you finding William is proving tricky. I am worried about this one:

1871 RG10; Piece: 3683; Folio: 33; Page: 14
There are 3 William Taylors who are lodgers in Altrincham Shocked

William Taylor 60 yrs unmarried (?) b Thrapewood (Threapwood)
William Taylor married 37 yrs hawker b Stockport
William Taylor 16 yrs son of -do- b Northwich (transcribed as Northinch)

so you do get William son of William and he is born Northwich.
Maybe the older one has nothing to do with it.
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 09 July 09 22:45 UTC (UK) »
Could the older William be his father also? 3 Generations of William?

Dave
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 09 July 09 23:00 UTC (UK) »
not too sure about that - I think it said he was single but that could be an error I suppose.
I have had another look but hard to find in 1861 where William b 1855 ish should be somewhere.
You'll just have to keep looking  Grin

goodnight now.
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 09 July 09 23:02 UTC (UK) »
I think I'm at a dead end. Angry
Night All!
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heywood
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 09 July 09 23:09 UTC (UK) »
If you look at Cheshire BMD baptisms for Cheshire West (covers Northwich) for years 1855-1857, there is one birth for William Taylor b Northwich 1855.
As he puts this most often for his place of birth, it may be good to follow up. Will cost though  Sad

PS just seen a birth for 1858 too but I think that may be too late.. is it?
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 09 July 09 23:15 UTC (UK) »
Which and where is this located? Is this the site?
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi

I have found a birth in 1855
William Taylor   Northwich   Cheshire West       NO/16/006

Are you possibly suggesting this could be the one? Could I visit the Central Library Archive to find out if this William father was William and his mothers maiden name?

You are correct their is a birth in 1857
TAYLOR   William   Northwich   Cheshire West       NO/19/028
Would it be easier to just purchase them?

The one with a father known as William would be the correct one!

Dave
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heywood
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 09 July 09 23:22 UTC (UK) »
yes thats the site- this is the home page
http://cheshirebmd.org.uk/

there are some frequently asked questions and general information links on the home page.

for births, you have to get a certificate. If you knew some baptism details- church etc then you could possible find those on a film at a library.

However as you say, you could apply for a birth and state that William is the father and see what transpires.
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 09 July 09 23:23 UTC (UK) »
The 1857 Northwich, Cheshire, England birth looks the most possible as the 1881 Census says Stockport and the 1901 says Northwich.

The marriage details to Agnes also say Northwich. Looks like £7.00 is flying off again :-)

Dave  
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 09 July 09 23:26 UTC (UK) »
when you apply, make sure you mention both and give both sets of details but specify that you want the one with father William- that way, provided that there is one, you will only pay for that one. (and not have to pay for two applications)

off to bed- work tomorrow.

goodnight.
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Tom Taylor & Deborah Robinson
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 09 July 09 23:32 UTC (UK) »
Bu&*er it.

Just ordered both £14.00. Better safe than sorry! Although I am leaning towards 1857.

Dave
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