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Davidjnr
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Ad originally and confusingly discussed on the Robert & Nancy thread, I am attempting to trace on of my ancestors Tom Taylor born 1893.
In the 1901 Census he is 8, born in 1893 and a child of his parents William Taylor b. 1857 and Caroline Ferguson b. 1858.
MUM44 advised that Tom's birth certificate is essential as it will provide valuable insight into his mother's name and maiden name which in previous and following census records she uses the name Agnes. Which certificate should I opt to order to confirm these details?
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Davidjnr
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Sorry I meant to say is which Free BMD index would I use to order Tom Taylor's Birth Certificate?
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Davidjnr
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Hi all and Heywood, Mum;
Sorry for the late reply but I had a really bad reaction to pain killers after my car accident and have been unwell.
I am desperate to start ordering Birth Certificates for a number of my branches and especially Tom Taylor to confirm his parents are William Taylor b.1857 and Agnes or Caroline (Agnes) Ferguson b.1858.
Tom can be found on the 1901 census R no. RG13 piece 3688 folio 66 page 26, however is birth certificate is driving me nuts! In the census he is noted as being born in 1893 and is 8 years old and at school.
Free BMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ has two possible birth's for Tom in 1893:
June Prestwich 8d 399 which is also found by ancestry.co.uk.
Alternatively I also have a match in 1892:
June Chorlton 8c 843 which is also found by ancestry.co.uk.
However Lancashire BMD http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/ has a Tom Taylor in 1892:
Ardwick
Which do you believe in your experiences is the correct match? Am I going to have to order all of them to confirm? I am leaning towards Chorlton 1892 as the Chorlton registration district encompasses the sub-districts : Ardwick; Barton; Chorlton upon Medlock; Didsbury; Gorton; Hulme; Openshaw; Rusholme; Stretford.
The 1901 census states that Tom was born in Gorton.
What do you think?
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Davidjnr
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How do I go about tracing his death and even better locating his grave?
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Davidjnr
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Hi Heywood,
I'm a little better but still worst for where. I haven't ordered any certificates yet as I am on a really tight budget and want to make sure the pennies count :-)
Well observed, I wrote Prestwich but remembered reading that Chorlton encompassed Ardwick, Gorton etc.
Would you order the following then:
Lancashire BMD 1892 Ardwick? I suspect that that mirrors the 1892 Chorlton information on 8c 843.
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heywood
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Hi Dave and all,
I have been to the library re all the families on initial thread. I have posted results except the Taylors which I will post here so that hopefully it is a bit more clear.
Here is Dave's initial query:
3) William Taylor B: about 1857, Northwich, Cheshire, England married to Caroline ? B: about 1858, Northwich, Cheshire, England.
There is much on the other thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,387694.30.html
re Caroline /Agnes and what I suspect to be her origins
Marriage: March 20th 1880 St James Gorton
William Taylor 24 yrs Bachelor; a labourer of Gorton
Father: William Wheeldon Taylor, a labourer
Agnes Ferguson 22 yrs Spinster; a Spinner of Gorton
Fathert: John Ferguson a moulder
both signed: (William signed Willim)
Witnesses: Samuel Fielding and Mary Ann Fielding (mark).
Dave,
to some extent this does not solve the Agnes/Caroline mystery.
It is worth noting that people did not always confirm that the father was deceased on a certificate.
In other thread - the father is John, a soldier and although nothing can be confirmed, it is strongly supported by Caroline (mother) being next door etc.
Again- you can now begin to search for William's parents.
One last thing which may come up in future:
Family Search has a baptism for Albert Taylor St Andrew's Ancoats.
I looked it up:
Albert Taylor born December 20th 1892 and baptised December 30th 1892.
Parents: William and Caroline Taylor 12 Sparkle Street - a labourer.
1901 census has 2 Alberts with parents William and Caroline -this one is not yours.
Take your time now Dave to collate all your info and then I have advised that you have separate threads for the families for future.
heywood 
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Davidjnr
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Lots of great information and all this was provided by the Manchester archives WOW!
I imagine that the marriage would be the record 'Chorlton' then and a copy will confirm what you have discovered. As we discussed above i.e Chorlton encompasses Ardwick and Gorton etc.
1892 Chorlton on 8c 843.
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Davidjnr
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Yay a lot of digging later and I've found the marriage record for William Taylor and Agnes Ferguson:
The year of registration is 1880,
The quarter of registration is Jan-Feb-Mar (so matches the above Manchester archive information)
The district is Chorlton, the county is Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 786
Both parties married :-)
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Davidjnr
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Hi,
Can someone please help me locate Williams father William Wheeldon Taylor and the birth certificate of William jnr.
I have William Jnr on the 1881 Census
Class: RG11; Piece: 3902; Folio: 72; Page: 22; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341932.
His birth date: abt 1856
Birth place: Stockport, Cheshire, England
Residence date: 1881
Residence place: Gorton, Lancashire, England
I can't seem to locate him in 1891 but have in 1901:
Class: RG13; Piece: 3688; Folio: 66; Page: 26.
Birth date: abt 1857
Birth place: Northwich, Cheshire, England
Residence date: 1901
Residence place: Gorton, Lancashire, England
I am desperate to find his birth certificate details so I can order it and determine his mothers name to go alongside William Wheeldon Taylor is father.
Helppppp!
Dave
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