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Topic: Looking for Descendants of Alfred Roberts & Annie Celia Stone. . (Read 377 times)
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lizdb
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Are you wanting to progress further back or further forward?
Either way it would be best to firm up some of your information, which has a lot of "I thimks" in it!
If the definite fact is Alfred Roberts born Oswestry approx 1869 then work from that. AHve you got his birth cert? or even foind his birth registration to firm up when he was born? Have you got him on early censuses with his family? Have you got a marriage cert to Annie Stone, confirming it is the same chap by seeing who he says is his father, and his occupation etc?
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nanny jan
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Hi,
Alfred jnr. is of an age to have served in WW1; have you looked for his records?
I'm not sure if there are any records of either chauffeurs or coachmen. 
Have you looked for a marriage for Alfred jnr. or the deaths of his parents?
There might be others researching this line; have you checked a site like Genes Reunited?
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN
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lizdb
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Roberts is a pretty common name, so it wont be easy!
you could try going thorugh the full death index, quarter by quarter, looking for death of Annie Cecilia (I suggest her rather than Alfred as a more unusual name) but I cant remember when it stops giving full name and reverts to initial (ie Annie C) which will be less conclusive.
If you can find a death for either, but I think that will behard without creating a long list of Possibles and wasting money on lots of certs before finding right ones, but if you could, then looking for a Will might be a useful move.
You can also try looking for a marriage for son after 1911, but again will be hard to pinpoint without sending for certs to check dads name and occupation.
Just seen your addition to your post - seems you have found too many deaths to be practical
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Nemo
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Hi Barbara
I’ve just read your query on “Occupations”.
I have been told how in the early 1900’s an employer decided to buy a car and sent his groom up to Birmingham for training and to return with the car all in one day! Although the chauffeur didn’t have to pass a driving test, he did have to obtain a licence from his local Council. The chauffeur later worked in central London. When he retired he moved back into his home county, but not to where he had lived with his parents, so I can appreciate that you will have a problem finding where Alfred and Annie Cecilia died, although Annie Cecilia should be easier to find in the GRO Index.
You could try another way of locating your Roberts family. Check if your local archives have the microfiches of the Index to the National Probate Calendar (from 1858 onwards). The index gives you the person’s name, occupation, normal address, address where he/she died, date of death and probate, names and occupations of executors. Value of effects. The executor is likely to be their spouse, or Alfred Junior, if he was their only child. So the right combination of names in the Probate Calendar should help you find your Roberts and discard the others.
Even though you don’t know when Alfred and Annie Cecilia died, or whether they left wills, at least you wont be wasting money on the wrong death certs!
If they did leave wills, you may find other family names in the brief description of the probate. You can also send for copies.
See http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/civil/probate/aboutus.htm
The website also provides a list of other English addresses where you can search the Probate Calendar and order copies.
You may also be able to find out if and when they left the Lancaster Gate address by checking the electoral roll/register, IF they have survived. Alfred could vote in both local and parliamentary elections and Annie Cecilia could vote in local elections before she could vote in parliamentary ones.
See an explanation in an article at http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/trail/local_history/industry/history_of_pottery_fact_file.shtml
HTH and Good Luck
Nemo
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