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ironbark
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George Hewitt & Thomas Cole both charged with housebreaking at Herefordshire tried 9/4/1844 - 10 yrs served 4 on the hulks then transported to Tasmania, would like to find details of the trial.Also it was stated that George Hewitt 24 yrs old "proper name Robert Garnham" uncle John Garnham both of Ipswich, can anyone help me with the name situation
Ken
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Webb, Beenham & Bucklebury, Berkshire
Gray, Hawkhurst, Kent
Eastwood, Leaney, Ticehurst, Burwash, Relf, Brightling Sussex
Pilkington, Hewitt, Rands
Walker , Rothwell
Goltz - Stettin East Prussia, Dowey, Ballyloughan, Armagh
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geno500
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Hi Ken I never like to see a posting slipping out of the frame having had 59 people look at it without a answer,as you are fairly new to roots chat you must remember that if it's not on Ancestry or on the net most of the people who inhabit roots chat will not be able to help you as you need real family history info /lookup,okay that said,it was not uncommon for the bad guys to have a alias,I must admit your ones have been more inventive than most giving the name Hewitt when there name was Garnham,I doubt very much if you will ever get to the bottom of that,what I can tell you is that Garnham is a suffolk name so if it says uncle John Grarnham was from Ipswich I would say that was true,and if thats true then maybe his proper name was Robert Garnham,I must admit as being puzzled by the crime happening in Herts but being tried in Essex,but any record will be held by Essex records at Chelmsford they have a web site called SEAX it may be worth a look at or ring them and say what assizes records have you got for 1844,that said all you will get is what you have already that they were sentanced to 10 years the 4 years on hulks may have been at Harwich or just about anywhere local that a old ship of the line could be moored so that a small number of people could contol a larger number of convicts,most people could not swim so escape was not easy,until they were transported,to find out what terrible deed they did will maybe lead you to the Essex Cronicle which has been printed since the 1700's micro film of it is kept by Chelmsford central library,again a few hours needed to wade through that lot,if you are not local to Essex records as I suspect you are not,I would suggest you ask for a 1841 census look up for the name Garnham in the Ipswich area on rootschat as you know that at about the time of that census young Robert and possibly his uncle John was up to no good in Herts,this will still leave family in Ipswich,and give you a parish to search for records,well thats the best I can do on a Friday night,the rest of my wine awaits best of luck.
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drhewitt
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I have Hewitts and Garnhams in my tree, in the Essex/Norfolk/Suffolk area.
James Hewitt (b 1790) married Mary Garnham in 1816 Rickinghall Superior, father John Garnham.
Don't know if this helps.
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ironbark
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I have Hewitts and Garnhams in my tree, in the Essex/Norfolk/Suffolk area.
James Hewitt (b 1790) married Mary Garnham in 1816 Rickinghall Superior, father John Garnham.
Don't know if this helps.
have just seen your reply, I still confused as I have found in the Tasmanian convict records that as well as George Hewitt arriving as a convict with the note on his record "proper name Robert Garnham" & uncle John Garnham, I found a Robert Garnham from the same place sent to Tasmania as a convict along with John & Robert died as Robert Garnham in Tas. 1860. I believe they must have a connection to each other and must have been trying to hide something, for reasons I know not what. So at this stage George whether he was originally a Garnham or a Hewitt married and died in Tasmania as George Hewitt,would like to keep in touch with you as I also have Garnhams on tmy Rands side of tree in Ipswitch- regards ken
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Webb, Beenham & Bucklebury, Berkshire
Gray, Hawkhurst, Kent
Eastwood, Leaney, Ticehurst, Burwash, Relf, Brightling Sussex
Pilkington, Hewitt, Rands
Walker , Rothwell
Goltz - Stettin East Prussia, Dowey, Ballyloughan, Armagh
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geno500
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Hi Ken when you signed up for rootschat you should have allowed your email service to notify you of replies to your postings,still you are making some head way the other posting looks interesting about the marriage,it's a possible,I am up to my neck at the moment but I will have a look at the Chelmsford records and if I have time the Chronicle,but it looks like your tree comes from Suffolk so I will not be much help with look ups in Essex records 
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drhewitt
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Ironbark,
I don't know if the following information is useful but here is a partial transcript of the marriage allegation between James Hewitt and Mary Garnham....
Know all men by these Presents, That we James Hewitt of the Parish of New Buckenham in the County of Norfolk Wheelwright and John Garnham of the Parish of Rickinghall Superior pattern maker are holden and firmly bound to the worshipful John Spachey.....
Dated the twenty second day of January 1816
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ironbark
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third attempt at a reply, here goes, does this just mean that the two fathers are from the same church ? anyway it does tell me that there is a connection between the two family names, I will have to re-visit my Rands branch also from Ipswitch Suffolk who are also connected to a Garnham family from the same place.
drhewitt we may be connected in some way.
Also hopefully geno500 will see this post, as I thought I had allowed e-mail notification, but maybe I have mucked up with the choices.
and do you think I should now open a new post on the Suffolk board.
Ken
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Webb, Beenham & Bucklebury, Berkshire
Gray, Hawkhurst, Kent
Eastwood, Leaney, Ticehurst, Burwash, Relf, Brightling Sussex
Pilkington, Hewitt, Rands
Walker , Rothwell
Goltz - Stettin East Prussia, Dowey, Ballyloughan, Armagh
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colcourt
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Have you seen the images of the Process Books of Indictment that are available on the Essex Record Office's website?
The web address is www.essex.gov.uk/ero - click on Seax which takes you through to the search page.
In the top right hand corner enter the reference Q/SPb 24 (which is the book for 1844) then click on Go.
This will take you through to a brief description of the item and will show an icon that indicates that a digital image is avalable (free).
Click on the wording and this will take you through to a page with a very small image; to enlarge the image click on the word 'here' as instructed.
Use the drop down to choose the image you need - images 6 and 12 for the index to Thomas Cole and George Hewitt respectively, then image 43 for their entry in the book.
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ironbark
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Colcourt,
Thank you, a very impressive 2nd post, it tells me where he and Mr Cole were living at the time, Parish of Takely.
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Ken
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Webb, Beenham & Bucklebury, Berkshire
Gray, Hawkhurst, Kent
Eastwood, Leaney, Ticehurst, Burwash, Relf, Brightling Sussex
Pilkington, Hewitt, Rands
Walker , Rothwell
Goltz - Stettin East Prussia, Dowey, Ballyloughan, Armagh
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