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km1971
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It is pretty straightforward. He was awarded two medals and received the Silver War Badge (for leaving the army before the end of the war). It even gives you the extra information that he entered a theatre of war on 22 August 1917. The number one in brackets is the code for France. If he had ‘entered theatre’ before the end of 1915 he would have qualified for the 1914-1915 Star. Normally they do not bother giving you dates in 1916 or later, so having this is a bonus. As is having the number impressed on his SWB (383484). Normally you would have to go to Kew to get this information.
This link will give you some background to the medals - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/medals.asp
In the remarks, IV = Issue Voucher. So his medals were issued with others on IV reference X/11121, dated 20 Dec1921. I haven’t come across anyone who knows what NWxxxxxxx means, so you can ignore these.
These links with tell you what the 1/6th Battalion of the North Staffs did during the war - http://www.1914-1918.net/nstaffs.htm - and - http://www.1914-1918.net/46div.htm
He is not listed in the Army List of September 1918, so he probably left the army before then.
This is not an army record, it is his medal index card for his army service. It is not intended to include his medical history, nor his ability to earn a living after leaving the army.
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It is pretty straightforward. He was awarded two medals and received the Silver War Badge (for leaving the army before the end of the war). It even gives you the extra information that he entered a theatre of war on 22 August 1917. The number one in brackets is the code for France. If he had ‘entered theatre’ before the end of 1915 he would have qualified for the 1914-1915 Star. Normally they do not bother giving you dates in 1916 or later, so having this is a bonus. As is having the number impressed on his SWB (383484). Normally you would have to go to Kew to get this information. This link will give you some background to the medals - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/medals.aspIn the remarks, IV = Issue Voucher. So his medals were issued with others on IV reference X/11121, dated 20 Dec1921. I haven’t come across anyone who knows what NWxxxxxxx means, so you can ignore these. These links with tell you what the 1/6th Battalion of the North Staffs did during the war - http://www.1914-1918.net/nstaffs.htm - and - http://www.1914-1918.net/46div.htm He is not listed in the Army List of September 1918, so he probably left the army before then. This is not an army record, it is his medal index card for his army service. It is not intended to include his medical history, nor his ability to earn a living after leaving the army. Ken
I don't know how you do it, but I am most gratefull, thanks, what were the 2 medals BTW?
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ainslie
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There appears to be a reference to the London Gazette 'LG' after 'SWB' on the card. If you try this site:
http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/AdvancedSearch.aspx?GeoType=London
for searching the Gazette, you MAY find an entry - it is not always easy.
You should also find, with a search covering the war period, one or more references to his army commission in the Gazette. It is worth trying various combinations of his full names, or initials and surname etc.
It may be possible to pay to get his army record which could be at Glasgow, but I am no expert and others will advise. I suspect only the next-of-kin can apply.
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km1971
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Normally 'LG' on a MIC does indicate a London Gazette listing. Although I have not come across SWBs being 'gazetted'. I did search the LG of that date, but all I found were lists of Military Medal winners.
If it is not connected with the London Gazette the date will either be when his SWB was agreed to, or the date it was sent out. Unlike his medals which were supplied three years after the war, SWBs were sent out within a few weeks, so the date should be close to when he left the army.
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ainslie
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Only that officers had to apply for their campaign medals while other ranks were sent them.
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Pete Keane
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I think there is a clue in KM's first reply - the Silver War Badge was commonly issued to wounded soldiers who had been discharged - they wore it so they didn't get harangued in the street for not being in the Army.
I suspect your man was injured and unfit, then discharged, and was not taken back by the police for the same reasons.
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A lot of Officers records are held at Kew but you would hve to visit or get a researcher to look him up.Its possible the record survived as some were in different places to the ORs when the offices were bombed in 1940.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=6&j=1
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