Brie
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Hi,
I think I need some fresh eyes to look at this.
Ann Eggleston(e) was born 1826. She is living with James Egglestone and John Egglestone in Wysall in 1841. All born in county. They were a farming family.
The 1861 census has John and James living together. They were brothers and both were born in Willoughby. Subsequent censuses show they set up separate household in Wysall and were bachelors.
Ann married after the 1851 census, had a child and died before the 1861 census.
I cannot find Ann, John or James on the 1851 census. I would like to find this so that
a) I can establish the village of her birth. The two boys were born in Willoughby. So Ann may have been born there or perhaps in Wysall. Family records that she was living there by c1838
and b) What relation were John and James to Ann?
N.B. The Ann Egglestone born c1826 in Keyworth is a different Ann.
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James and John are together in the 1851 too ...
HO107/2086; Folio: 148; Page: 12 - Wysall
next door to a Thomas Egglestone and family
still looking for Ann ...
did you get her Marriage Cert ?
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lizdb
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... and page before are a Frances and Sarah Eggleston
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Brie
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Thanks Pastmaster,
I will take a look at that. I know that the marriage was later than 1851. Her husband to be's first wife was still alive in 1851! We do have the marriage date somewhere in the family records but not the actual certificate.
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just interested as if it can be shown via PRs that her father was also the Father of the 2 lads .....
age 15 in 1841 could have been up to 19 ..... but hasnt helped in the census .
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lizdb
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Cant see an obvious marriage for her - unless it is the 1855 Nottingham one for MARY Ann Egglestone
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think shes one of the Anns in the Loughborough District Liz ?
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this looks very much like the younger bro' .... no sign of John nor Ann in the parish tho !
JAMES EGLESTON Christening - 06 JULY 1817 Willoughby On The Wolds, Nottingham
Parents shown as:-
JOSEPH EGLESTON
ISABELLA
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Brie
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Hi,
Was just replying to you Liz when Past Master wrote.
Yes the marriage is registered in Loughborough. It is D1853 to Henry Stubbs.
Past Master, I am very interested if the PRs show up the possibility of their all having the same father. In Ann's bible she has recorded the deaths in the 1830s of a George whom I thought might be Dad and a Josh (I think it's Josh, might be Jos or similar - this is from memory as I don't have the bible to hand) whom I thought might be grandpa.
I'm trying to look at the census ref. but Ancestry is having tanntrums with me and shutting down and telling me to upgrade my browser 
Thank-you both
Brie
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there was also a George baptised in Willoughby - check the IGI 
if you find / obtain the Marriage Cert, and her Dad is Joseph - then QED I'd say 
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Brie
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Past Master,
I think that James might be fractionally too young. The James in the censuses seems to have birth dates about 1819-21.
He may have been a brother who died. If these three are siblings there are big age gaps. Or it could be a relation. It looks as if I'll have to spend a day in the records office sifting through every Egglestone in the area as there seems to be plenty of them in order to sort out all the relationships.
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1841 shows age 20 - could be up to 24 with the rounding down.
Cant remember but I think 1851 said c1815 ....
ages are notorious on the census
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Brie
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Hello again Past Master,
I've found the 1814 George on the IGI. He is too young to be the George whose death Ann recorded in her bible. I can't recall offhand his actual age at death but he was no spring chicken.
However, I will certainly make a note of it as I think I will have to gather up a lot of details about this lot to be able to sort out their relationships.
I quite agree about the unreliability of the ages on the censuses. Imagine my surprise when I found triplets i the family in the 1841. However, from the 1861 James would be born about 1820 and from the 1881 about 1819. I'm being cautious as there are so many Egglestones in that area that I don't want to be tracing a cousin etc by mistake.
Sorry forgot to add that James is 30 on the 1851.
Thanks again
Brie
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sorry, it looked like 36 - but it could indeed be 30, so more consistant with 1841 ...
John Eggleston 39
James Eggleston 36
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Jane Swan
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Hi
I know a person who is an expert in family history in Willoughby on the Wolds. I have emailed him to see if he can assist via a contact.
Fingers crossed.
Kind regards
Jane
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