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Aulus
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How long can a marriage register last?
« on: Saturday 08 August 09 19:51 UTC (UK) »

I called up a marriage register at the Lancashire Records Office today which covers the largest period I've yet come across: the first entry was 1854; the last entry 2004.

The standard size of a CofE marriage register with the usual number of pages.

Whitechapel St James is obviously a rather quiet church when it comes to marriages!

I should have spent longer looking at it.  I recall the job of one of the last entries was given as IT Consultant.  Could you imagine trying to explain that to the couple who were entry number 1?!! 

Anyone seen a longer-lasting register?
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Re: How long can a marriage register last?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 August 09 20:02 UTC (UK) »

I've seen BT's in which it says no one was was baptised, married or buried in some years.
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Re: How long can a marriage register last?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 August 09 20:31 UTC (UK) »

We have one in our church which I noticed when it was checked by the then Bishop, that started around 1850 and we were still using it in 2004 !  (And still are !!)   I pointed this out to him as showing what an economical church we were !
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Re: How long can a marriage register last?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 August 09 20:39 UTC (UK) »

Parish Register Teffont Magna Wilts 1597 "In this year nothing Happened". I have heard it said at a FHS meeting that a very few registers from the early 19th century are still in use in some very small parish churches, worth bearing in mind if you can't find a record!
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Re: How long can a marriage register last?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 August 09 21:25 UTC (UK) »

The number of churches with only one marriage in some quarters was the reason that the GRO changed the size of marriage register pages. Originally there were up to 4 marriages on a page. But after a few years of quarterly returns with one entry on a page that could have contained 8, (if both sides were full), they realised they were giving house room to a lot of near-blank paper, and calculated that they would run out of space. So they changed to smaller pages so there would be less wasted space.

How's that for a piece of trivia that isn't even any use in pub quizzes!

Mean_genie
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Re: How long can a marriage register last?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 August 09 02:41 UTC (UK) »


How's that for a piece of trivia that isn't even any use in pub quizzes!


 That ~ and everything else posted on this thread ~ is Exactly why I so enjoy trawling through these boards in the dead of (my) night!

 Such mind bendingly in depth information, it makes one feel like a worm compared to the pittance of basic knowledge ones previously accrued, and felt quite switched on about.

 I'm constantly amazed at reading you folks casually discussing things I've never even heard of.

 And I thought I had a clue ....!
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Re: How long can a marriage register last?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 August 09 12:45 UTC (UK) »

Steve

That's very flattering, thanks.

Although in my case it's the manifestation of 'easily distracted from what she's meant to be reading' (ask my teachers and employers), with a touch of 'should get out more' (ask my friends and family)!  Grin

Glad you'e enjoying trawling Rootschat anyway - me too!

Mean_genie

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Re: How long can a marriage register last?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 August 09 13:24 UTC (UK) »

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Although in my case it's the manifestation of 'easily distracted from what she's meant to be reading' (ask my teachers and employers), with a touch of 'should get out more' (ask my friends and family)!

And I thought it was just me  Cheesy Cheesy

In the days before computers (yes I'm that old) I could look something up in the children's encyclopedia that we had and, several hours later, be found with half a dozen volumes on the floor having followed all sorts of interesting distractions. 

I have to say it's much easier on the internet  Cheesy

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Aulus
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Re: How long can a marriage register last?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 August 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »

The number of churches with only one marriage in some quarters was the reason that the GRO changed the size of marriage register pages. Originally there were up to 4 marriages on a page. But after a few years of quarterly returns with one entry on a page that could have contained 8, (if both sides were full), they realised they were giving house room to a lot of near-blank paper, and calculated that they would run out of space. So they changed to smaller pages so there would be less wasted space.

How's that for a piece of trivia that isn't even any use in pub quizzes!

Mean_genie

Not disputing what you say, mean-genie, but I was looking at a church marriage register recently that began in 1837 and ended mid 1980s, and that was in what I presumed had always been the standard two per side format from the start of civil registration.  I've never actually seen a four per page marriage register.  I shall make it a goal to keep looking at marriage registers till I find one!

The interesting thing about this particular register was that it hadn't been filled up, but after the last marriage (mid 1980s), there was a note saying something like "Register discontinued on the instructions of the Registrar General - invalid format"  That's presumably a message that didn't get through to the vicar at Whitechapel, Lancs as mentioned in my first post in this thread.

On churches being economical with registers, I've come across several that continued using their pre-civil registration registers for their copy.  Blackburn Cathedral must have had dozens printed before civil registration, as they were still using them up well into the 1840s - and they were certainly a very busy church!
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
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East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
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Re: How long can a marriage register last?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 09 August 09 17:08 UTC (UK) »

A Lincolnshire parish, Alford I am almost sure was still using them into the 1880s.I suppose the answer to the question at the top of this thread has to be:Longer than any known marriage!
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