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Topic: Margaret O'Neill - Ancester b.1841 (Read 321 times)
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Ditch1
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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My Great Grand mother Margaret O’Neill was born in Ancaster Canada West on 4/12/1841. She married James O’Neill, my Great Grand father in 1864. (No name change for her!) James was born in Clare Castle, Co Clare Ireland on 22/4/1832. He left Ireland aged about 17 years old and enlisted in the Army in the UK.
They had two sons in Canada:-
1) James born Montreal April 1865.
2) William born Quebec S. Canada 19/11/1866, and died in Basingstoke, Hants. UK in a railway carriage on 25/10/1868.
I obtained the above information from a Catholic Army issue religious book these and subsequent children being carefully recorded in it, and have been able to gain some idea of their travels through the birth of the children.
Am wondering if there is any further information about Margaret in any Canadian records, especially who her parents were and did she have any brothers or sisters, marriage details etc? I would be grateful for any pointers & help.
Also in the religious book in James’ writing – it is very difficult to read but it looks as follows =
T – leamieton CU or maybe Heamieton Cll ??
1862
Does that mean any thing to any one?
Many thanks,
Mary.
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O'Neill - Co. Clare, Ireland, Framlingham, Bury-St-Edmunds, Halesworth.
Vice, Vyce - Framlingham.
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Jacquie in Canada
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This is the only marriage I could find in the Ontario marriage database but it lists Margaret as born in Ireland.
Margaret O'Neil, 19, born Ireland, daughter of James O'Neil and Ellen Fleming married James O'Neil, 25, born Ireland, son of Patrick O'Neil and Honnora Mead on 16 May 1864 in Wentworth County, Ontario.
Ancaster is in Wentworth County. There was no image for the entry so I couldn't check what occupation was listed for James (Margaret's husband, not father).
In the Drouin Collection at Ancestry there is an entry from Montréal (Saint Patrick) which indicates James was born on 6 Apr 1865 and baptised on 26 Apr 1865. His father is listed as James O'Neil, sergeant of the Rifle Brigade and his mother was Margaret O'Neil. James' godfather was James Maloney.
There is also an entry from Québec (Saint Patrick) for William which indicates he was born on 19 Nov 1866 and baptised on 15 Dec 1866. His father is listed as James O'Neil, sergeant of the Rifle Brigade and his mother was Margaret O'Neil. The sponsors were James Dowling, soldier and Annie Whelan.
Jacquie
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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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cosmac
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1861 census for Beverly Township Wentworth County (just slightly NW of Ancaster)
James ONeil Farmer 52 born Ireland RC
Mary ONeil 50 RC - shows the couple married in 1850
Michael ONeil 22 b. Ireland
Margaret ONeil 18 b. Canada West
John ONeil 16 b. Canada West
James ONeil 14 b. Canada West
There is also Margaret ONeil in Ancaster Township Wentworth County living with the G.B. and Jane Rousseau family. Margaret is born 1841 Canada West
Debbie
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Ditch1
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Hi Debbie,
Thanks for suggestions.
There is also Margaret ONeil in Ancaster Township Wentworth County living with the G.B. and Jane Rousseau family. Margaret is born 1841 Canada West
Debbie
Would this one be nearer? Although if she was living with the family her parents are not recorded I guess, she would have been 20 then, would she have been a servant?
They all sem to have lost a 'L' !
Thanks alot
Mary
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O'Neill - Co. Clare, Ireland, Framlingham, Bury-St-Edmunds, Halesworth.
Vice, Vyce - Framlingham.
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cosmac
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This link shows the location of Beverly Township and also Ancaster is located on the map.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverley_Township,_Ontario
There's always the possibility that these two Margarets are one and the same and simply enumerated twice, once with her family and once where she was working - even though not all the details match up. It doesn't say anything about Margaret's relationship to the Rousseau family but since she is enumerated at the end of their family grouping she is most likely working for them.
Debbie
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Jacquie in Canada
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I found a website that indicated the Rifle Brigade was stationed in Ontario and Quebec around the time of James' marriage however it wasn't more specific than that. I wouldn't completely rule out the Wentworth marriage. I think the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness website - http://www.raogk.org/ - has volunteers in Ontario who do public records look-ups if no one here has access to the microfilm. I believe a registration from that time would have the man's occupation but they didn't include it in the transcripts.
Jacquie
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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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