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Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« on: Wednesday 24 June 09 17:24 BST (UK) »

Hi
I am trying to trace my Mothers family back her name was Elizabeth Agnes Ficken,  and was hoping that there is family out there who have already been working on this and that we might be able to trade information. I have traced her family back as far as her Great Grandfather John Ficken 1821/23 and have found census records but I am unclear about his children, as the names keep changing, and I am having problems tracing them through the records.
Thanks
Mysubee
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Myatt - Price   Wales, Glamorgan, Montgomeryshire and Shropshire
Ficken - Morris   London
Brace - Philipson  Essex, Cumberland, Westmoreland
Philipson - Beck Northumberland, Cumberland
Griffith - Griffiths Wales , Shropshire
CaroleW
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Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 17:28 BST (UK) »

Hi

Looking at the 1851 census - there are 3 John Ficken's in that age range

Could you post full 1851 details of your John Ficken so we can see if we can sort something out for you
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Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 20:15 BST (UK) »

1851 Census for John Ficken
age                28
Birth               abt 1823
Relation          Head
Gender           Male
Where Born    Stepney, Middlsex, England
Civil Parish      St Mary Whitechapel
Ecc Parish       St Mark
Town               London Middlesex. England
Registration    Whitechapel 
Sub                  Goodmans Fields
ves                   1l  household # 134
Betsey Ficken 23, George Ficken 5 months, John Ficken 28

I have pulled the census to 1881 but I can not trace George or James/John on further census.  I am OK with Frank [Francis, and Edward George who is my direct line.

Hope you can Help
Mysubee Smiley
               
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Myatt - Price   Wales, Glamorgan, Montgomeryshire and Shropshire
Ficken - Morris   London
Brace - Philipson  Essex, Cumberland, Westmoreland
Philipson - Beck Northumberland, Cumberland
Griffith - Griffiths Wales , Shropshire
CaroleW
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Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 20:41 BST (UK) »

Hi

Could this be John's death - he's the right age

Deaths June qtr 1885 
John Ficken  aged 62  Mile End  1c 359
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Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 20:45 BST (UK) »

1901 census for 119 Plough Rd Battersea

James E Ficken 40  plumber b Battersea
George H Ficken 49 brother  b Lambeth - butcher
Louisa Wiles 43  servant b Epsom Surrey
RG13 Piece 455 Folio 49 Page 13

Both James and George are shown as single
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Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 20:47 BST (UK) »

In 1891 George was in lodgings in Chelsea aged 40 occ butcher birthplace London

RG12 Piece 63 Folio 135 Page 48
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Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 20:54 BST (UK) »

Thanks
I will start checking your information, not sure if they are the right ones as the family did not seem to move far from where they were born if later generations are anything to go by.

Mysuebee
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Myatt - Price   Wales, Glamorgan, Montgomeryshire and Shropshire
Ficken - Morris   London
Brace - Philipson  Essex, Cumberland, Westmoreland
Philipson - Beck Northumberland, Cumberland
Griffith - Griffiths Wales , Shropshire
CaroleW
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Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 20:57 BST (UK) »

Hi

You mention you have them up to 1881 - could you post the full 1881 details for each of them so I can be sure I get the right 1891/1901 entries
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Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 21:13 BST (UK) »

George abt 1850/1851
1851 Census
HO107 Piece 1546  Folio 245  Page 29

James/John 1850/1851
1861 Census
RG 9  Piece 209  Folio 133  Page 38
1871 Census
RG 10  Piece 517  Folio 67  Page 42


Edward Ficken  1854 - 1884
1881 census
Rg11  piece 444 Folio72  Page 17

Francis [Frank] abt 1852
1881 Census RG 11  piece 444  Folio 71 page 16

Hope this is what you wanted
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Myatt - Price   Wales, Glamorgan, Montgomeryshire and Shropshire
Ficken - Morris   London
Brace - Philipson  Essex, Cumberland, Westmoreland
Philipson - Beck Northumberland, Cumberland
Griffith - Griffiths Wales , Shropshire
CaroleW
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Barney 1993-2005


Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 23:37 BST (UK) »

I'm posting the full census details as it makes it easier to follow than having to turn up the entries each time

1851

John Ficken 28 b Stepney
Betsy 23 b Ongar
George 5 days b Whitechapel

1861 - the enumerator has made a right mess of the entry.  Only one birthplace shown despite 4 entries for children.  There appears to be 2 Franks - one aged 9 and one aged 4

John Ficken 37  b St Clements
Betsy   32  b Ongar
Edward   7  (Edward George b 1854)
James 11 (not on 1851 census) 
Frank 9 
William Wood ??

1871

John Ficken 50 b Stepney
Elizabeth 41 b Essex
John 21 b Whitechapel (presume this is the James in 1861)
Francis 19   ditto
Edward 17 b Bethnal Green

1881

Edward Ficken 27 b Poplar
Agnes 25 b Poplar
Edward 1  b Whitechapel

1881

Francis Ficken 29 b Stepney
Sarah 25 b Camberwell
Francis 7 b Whitechapel
William 4  ditto
Albert 1   ditto

Living  higher up from Francis & Sarah are parents John & Betsy but ages are way out

John Ficken  46 b Stepney
Betsy 42 b Ongar
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Re: Ficken Family Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, and Mile End.
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 25 June 09 13:05 BST (UK) »

Thanks
This confirms my own information. Smiley
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Myatt - Price   Wales, Glamorgan, Montgomeryshire and Shropshire
Ficken - Morris   London
Brace - Philipson  Essex, Cumberland, Westmoreland
Philipson - Beck Northumberland, Cumberland
Griffith - Griffiths Wales , Shropshire
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