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Al Maloney
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searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« on: Wednesday 08 July 09 14:00 UTC (UK) »

they were married on Nov 14, 1839 in Hutton,Berwick, Scotland

I'm also missing William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose birth dates and deaths.

here is a list of there children

Margaret Broomfield  Born 1841   Hutton,Berwick,Scotland
Elizabeth Broomfield  Born 1843   Hutton,Berwick,Scotland
Darling Broomfield-Walker Born Jan 1847  Hutton,Berwick,Scotland
William Broomfield Born Aug 02, 1855  Bunkle And Preston,Berwick,Scotland
David Broomfield Born Apr 29, 1857 Swinton And Simprin,Berwick,Scotland

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MonicaLesl
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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 19:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi Al

Not sure whether you have looked at the censuses for some background on William and Agnes. These look like the most obvious entries:

1851:

William Broomfield 41, Drystone Dike Bailder, b. Eccles
Agnes Broomfield 34, b. Coldstream, Berwshire
Adam Broomfield 11, b. Hutton, Berwshire
James Broomfield 1, b .Hutton, Berwshire
Broomfield under 1 Month, b. Chirnside, Berwshire

Town: Chirside, Chirnshire, Berwickshire

1861:

William Broomfield 52, Drystone Dyker
Agnes Broomfield 44
Margaret Broomfield 19
James Broomfield 11
John Broomfield 8, b. Chirnside, Berwickshire
William Broomfield 5, b. Bunkle, Berwickshire

Address: Old Ladykirk, Ladykirk

If William and Agnes died in Scotland, their death certificates should include full parents' details, including mothers' names, if known to the informant. All BMDs are available to view on line at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, pay to view but very reasonable. The birth entry that you have for William son shows in 1855, the first year of official reg. in Scotland. It should include, for that year only, where parents were born, ages, date and place of marriage, how many children they'd had (boy/girl, alive/deceased). Would certainly be worthwhile you looking at to confirm some background on them.

Monica  Smiley
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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 19:46 UTC (UK) »

From your information on Excel's post www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,256725.0.html, I see that Darling Broomfield is your line. This looks to be her in 1851:

Robert Darling 48, mason, b. Chirnside, Berw Shire
Margaret Darling 38, b. Coldstream, Berw Shire *
Darling Broomfield 4, niece b. Hutton
Jane Darling 37, Pauper Nearly Blind, b. Chirnside, Berw Shire

* I wonder given the birth place for wife Margaret Darling she could be a sister perhaps to Agnes Melrose?

Darling in 1861:

Francis Melrose 33, ploughman b. Hutton
Margaret Melrose 30, b. Coldingham, Berwickshire
John Melrose 1, b. Hutton
Infant  4 days , b. Hutton
Darling Broomfield 14, visitor, , b. Hutton

Address: Meadow House Mains, Hutton

Monica

Added: Perhaps this entry, actual extract from the OPRs:

ROBERT DARLING and MARGARET MELROSE    
Marriage: 21 JUL 1837 Chirnside, Berwick, Scotland
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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 19:54 UTC (UK) »

had a look at this earlier monica

you could be right -

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mpress&id=I1390

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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 19:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Al

Notice that the third child in your post had the surname hyphenated with WALKER. Had a look at IGI and found the following:

William BROOMFIELD, christened 19 Dec 1812 Kelso, Roxburgh.
Father. David BROOMFIELD
Mother. Anne WALKER

This may be the origin of the WALKER surname as mentioned above. The birthplace of William mentioned in the previous reply is shown as Eccles in the census. This is very close to Kelso so gives another link.

IGI also has an Agnes MELROSE, b.01 November 1816 at Coldstream, Berwick
Father. John MELROSE
Mother, Margaret MARSHALL

Birthplace is correct as per census details and following Scottish naming patterns the first daughter of William and Agnes was Margaret which would be the same as g.mothers.

Regards

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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:04 UTC (UK) »

Thank you so much for your help Monica. Are the scotland censuses online anywhere?

Darling Broomfield Walker is my Great Great Grandmother.


This is a photo of David+Darling Broomfield Walker with there children David,Agnes,Jane,Robina,William. The photo was take by Macnair in Abbotsford Villa Galashiels
(a short time before they left for the USA)


* DavidDarling_Bloomfiled_Walkerkids_DavidAgnusJaneRobinaWilliam_small.jpg (95.92 KB, 640x453 - viewed 66 times.)
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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:07 UTC (UK) »

Dex, that IGI entry could well connect with this 1851 census entry for daughter Elizabeth that Al showed born in 1843:

John Melrose    62, farm steward, Whitsome, Berwick
Margt Melrose    68, b. Whitsome, Berwick
Robert Melrose 32, b. Coldstream
Fransis Melrose 23, b. Hutton... Likely the Francis that Darling was with in 1861
Margt Purves 11, granddaughter b. Hutton
Elisabeth Purves 10, granddaughter b. Hutton
Elisabeth Broomfield 8, granddaughter b. Hutton
Agnes Melrose 20, niece, b. Edrom

Address: Sunwick, Hutton

Monica
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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:11 UTC (UK) »

Great photo Al  Smiley

Scottish censuses are available on line either through Scotlands People on the link above. These are the original images. They are also available as transcripts only on subs at Ancestry.

Monica
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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:17 UTC (UK) »

Ev, that link to Worldconnect does seem to be the right one for the family don't you think  Smiley

There is a possible entry on the censuses for William Broomfield's father which I've been looking at. Be back with that one!
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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:31 UTC (UK) »

If William and Agnes followed Scottish naming pattern, you would think his first born son would be called after his father 'Adam'. There is this possible entry in 1851:

Adam Broomfield 77, pauper, b. Eccles
Alison Broomfield 41, daughter b. Eccles
Adam Broomfield 6, grandson b. Stitchell, Roxburghsh
George Gladston 17, visitor b. Yetholm, Roxburghsh 

Address: Kimmergham Heugh, Edrom

William Broomfield's death cert will hopefully let you confirm.

Tongue I just realised that I left out daughter Margaret, aged 9, from the family's 1851 entry.

Monica
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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:52 UTC (UK) »

Possible submitted family tree showing on Ancestry for the Broomfield line showing parents as Adam Broomfield and Elizabeth Anderson. Only a few of the children show on this tree which seem to be following two potential siblings of William to Australia and their descendents there.

So far we have for William and Agnes (Melrose) the following early names for their children:

Adam c. 1840 - named after William's father?
Margaret  c. 1842 - named after Agnes' mother?
Elizabeth c. 1843 - named after William's mother?
Darling c. 1847 - named after the Darling family?
James c. 1850
Unnamed baby 1851
John c. 1853 - named after Agnes' father
William 1855 - named after father
David 1857


These are some of the children showing on IGI for Adam Broomfield and Elizabeth Anderson - all entries in Eccles:

1. MARGARET BROOMFIELD  Christening: 10 MAY 1796
2. AGNES BROOMFIELD  Christening: 09 APR 1800
3. JANET BROOMFIELD Christening: 30 JUN 1802
4. JANE BROOMFIELD Christening: 07 JAN 1805
5. ELSEY BROMFIELD  Christening: 27 NOV 1808
6. HARRIET BROOMFIELD Christening: 28 JUL 1811
7. ADAM BROOMFIELD Christening: 10 DEC 1813

No William though  Huh

Al, I think you will need to look at the death cert to verify his parents' names.

Monica  Smiley
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Re: searching for parents of William Broomfield+Agnes Melrose
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 09 July 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »

Thanks again for all the help.


I have alot to chew on with all this information
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