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john gow the missionary man COMPLETED
« on: Thursday 25 June 09 04:22 UTC (UK) »

 does anyone have information please on john gow ,was missionary man ,his occupation is listed as city missionary, and is buried in the elgin cathedral. stone no 0997. he married margaret monro , then later jessie ross.also john and jessie had a child jessie georgina which i need more info on as well,cant find her anywhere.
john gow was born 1809 elgin , died moss st church 23 april 1878.as a mission man what did he do,was he a minister or what.?can one get photo of these stones ? thanks  to all for chance of putting post here. . Cheesy
THANKS NOW COMPLETED
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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 June 09 04:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I found john in the 1851 census and the 1871 census would you like that information or do you already have it.

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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 June 09 05:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi peraldawn and welcome to rootschat Grin

When it says he was a "city missionary" I'd think he worked as a minister in that city preaching and teaching especially amongst the poor.

If you contacted the church you may be able to get a pic of the stone- and they may be able to advise you where  for instance their parish papers are archived. I'd reckon that there'd have been summat about him  in local news after his death.  This is surmose but it would be worth asking.

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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 June 09 07:05 UTC (UK) »

thanks Mandy yes i would like any info on this john gow and thankyou . Smiley

charlotte my research shows me the john gow place of death  parish church moss st elgin, so who would i write to . moray council? any suggestions..
im from newzealand .thanks heaps  Smiley
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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 June 09 07:07 UTC (UK) »

hi,

i will pm the info to you

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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 June 09 07:16 UTC (UK) »

thanks mandy,
was wondering if anyone is able to photograph the stone 0997 john gow elgin cathedral, that would be such a bonus for my family tree booklet.
the same stone number has jessie gow and  mary scott gow walker there as well. thanks Smiley
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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 June 09 07:30 UTC (UK) »

thanks for that mandy just got that info , confirms some of what i have but much more info as well, worth sending  Kiss
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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 June 09 09:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I'd write to the Vicar of the parish church...

but I am a bit confused as you have called it the cathedral...
 so we need to establish what the full name of the church is... maybe googling for that twon will do it? Is it called St John's or St Mark's or what?  And am I correct in thinking it is the Church of Scotland? or the Presbyterians or what?
If I know what denomination the church is then I can help with how to address the letter etc.   See what you can establish and let us know Grin

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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 June 09 10:54 UTC (UK) »

Hello

As you may be aware - if info not 'pm'd to you.

For any bmds in the area - always have a look at:

http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp

It's free and give some limited info on your John.  Just put his name in the search for people.  The site indicates that he had 4 children and parents were William Gow and Margaret Bain.

The ppv website at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk may be able to give copies of the OPR births (if recorded) - would cost (min spend) £6.00 - which allows for the download of 5 entries - if first time hits.  His death entry will - or should give parents names.

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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 25 June 09 11:08 UTC (UK) »

At least 6 children born from the marriage between a John Gow and  Margaret Munro - in Elgin indicated on www.familysearch.org.  Slight problem in that John and Jane do not appear to be twins and one born Apr the other Aug. 

b and ch. records and all 'extracted.  ?? 2 couples with the same name?  Exact IGI references pm'd to you.

Adam, 1848
Jane Gow1841
John, 1841
Alexander, 1839
David, 1837
William, 1830

There is no birth to a Jessie Georgina Gow (or Ross) in the OPRs in the appropriate time frame.

However in Scotland betwen 1835 and 1875 there is only 1 Jessie Georgina Gow born - and not surprisingly she is born in Elgin.  Looks as though you'll have to register with SP.  Her birth entry will give both parents names including mothers maiden name.  Will include fathers occ. and home address.  Will also indicate date and place of marriage.

 1872 GOW JESSIE GEORGINA F ELGIN /MORAY 135/00 0050

The following articles are available to purchase for a small fee from Libindex relating to 'your' John Gow. First initials = newspaper.  last numbers = ? page and column or vice versa.

FG  obituary 23/04/1878  3/5 
MWN  death 26/04/1878  2/5 
MWN  obituary 26/04/1878  2/7 

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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 25 June 09 23:42 UTC (UK) »

hi charlotte ,many thanks ,john is buried in the elgin cathdral, but he was invovled with the missionary of the moss st united presbyterian church elgin parish.
hi piglett, thanks also ,the libindx website has been very helpful so have  had  a look in there.  this john remarried to a jessie ross, one of the children was named jessie georgina, have some of others as well but cant find jessie georgina where she went or maybe died early.the children jane and john not twins  just hiccup in typing i think as jane was christened in 1844 so i assume b date type error which can happen...thanks to everyone for helping me here Smiley
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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 June 09 03:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I found this website it all about the graves in moray
I found John Gow there buried with his wife jessie and her daughter Mary Walker
with the stone number you supplied


This is Stone Number 0997 from ElginCath


0997 Gow John - - City Missionary. Lead lettering, with many missing. Some data from Cathedral records.

0997 Gow Jessie Ross 19(12) Date partly from Cathedral records

0997 Walker Mary Scott Gow 1912 m/s from Moray Heritage Centre


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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #12 on: Friday 26 June 09 04:20 UTC (UK) »

Mandy,
aren't you a wonderful ferret finding that wensite and possible MIs...
Well done Grin

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HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #13 on: Friday 26 June 09 07:52 UTC (UK) »

hi mandy, yes ive just found that website and asked for imfo ,so will see if they can come up with anything as well, thanks Smiley everyone is so helpful.
thankyou too charlotte Smiley
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Re: john gow the missionary man
« Reply #14 on: Friday 26 June 09 08:39 UTC (UK) »

Sadly it seems that Jessie Georgina Gow died in 1878 - same year as her father.

A search done on Scotlands People (SP), 1870 to 1980 only brings up one person of that name dying in all of Scotland.

1878 GOW JESSIE GEORGINA     F 5 ELGIN /MORAY 135/00 0008

To get the full entry which gives parents name and cause of death etc.  Available for download from SP for £1.20

Good luck with your searching.  Regards,   Steve.   Smiley
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