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RebeccaNZ
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Hi,
There is a marriage record for Joseph Terrett and Elizabeth Read
09 May 1802. St George Hanover Square, Westminster, Middlesex.
The record is not on IGI.
I'm from New Zealand and there is no chance of me being able to get over there in the near future.
If anyone happens to be going to the Westminster archives at any time please let me know  I would really appreciate it if you could do this look up for me while you were there.
If not, that's ok. I will contact the archives to do a search for me. I just thought that I would check here first
Rebecca
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RebeccaNZ
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It's from Boyd's marriage index and from the printed book for Hanover Square.
There is a thread about daughter Louisa Terrett in the London and Middlesex section but I can't cut and paste a link to thread.
If you are going to the archives and have enough time to do a look up I would really appreciate it
Don't worry if you can't though
Rebecca
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Valda
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Hi Rebecca
This is a possibility for Elizabeth Terrett nee Read on the 1851 census.
1851 census HO107 155?4 folio 207
11 Great Suffolk Street St George the Martyr Southwark Surrey
Elizabeth Terrett 77 Head Widow no occupation Aldenham Middlesex (or could be Alderham)
Catherine Thomas 22 Granddaughter Upholsterer St George Southwark
The only Aldenham I know is in Hertfordshire.
Catherine would be to old to be the daughter of Jonas Thomas and Louisa nee Terrett who didn't marry at St Mark's Kennington until 1833.
Possible baptism for Catherine.
CATHERINE ELIZABETH THOMAS
Birth: 29 APR 1829
Christening: 09 AUG 1829 St George The Martyr, Southwark, London
Father: THOMAS THOMAS
Mother: MARY ANN
but she could be the daughter of this couple.
MARY ANN TERRITT
THOMAS HUMPHREYS THOMAS
Marriage: 25 DEC 1826 Saint Mark, Kennington, London
On the 1851 census Thomas H Thomas aged 50 a cabinet maker with wife Mary Ann aged 44 are living with their daughter Louisa at 38 Great Union Street Southwark. Thomas was born at Wotton under Edge Gloucestershire and Mary Ann gives her birthplace as St Giles Middlesex. Wotton under Edge from the censuses appears to be the birthplace of Jonas Thomas.
Two other Terretts married at the same church.
MARTHA TERRETT
RICHARD LANDS
Marriage: 12 JUN 1827 Saint Mark, Kennington, London
There is a Martha Lands with a Richard Lands in Camberwell Surrey on the 1841 census but she is aged 50. There is a death registration for a Martha Lands in 1843 in Camberwell.
WILLIAM READ TERRETT
MARY ANN PHILADELPHIA MILES
Marriage: 17 JUL 1827 Saint Mark, Kennington, London
1851 census has William R Terrett aged 47 a cabinet maker born Middlesex and wife Mary A. P. and family are living in Newington Surrey. On the 1861 census William gives his birthplace as Marylebone.
WILLM. READ TERRATT
Birth: 10 APR 1803
Christening: MAY 1803 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London
Father: JOSEPH TERRATT
Mother: ELIZTH.
1841 census HO107 1084/6 folio 10
Great Suffolk Street St George the Martyr Southwark Surrey
Joseph Terrett 60 Cabinet maker not born Surrey
Elizh Terrett 65 not born Surrey
adult ages, those over 15 were usually rounded down to the nearest 5 on the 1841 census.
Deaths Jun 1850
TERRETT Joseph Geo St Southk 4 293
Deaths Dec 1858
Terrett Elizabeth St George S 1d 129
Besides the two other children's baptisms found on the other post of siblings for Louisa, this baptism from the IGI is also a possibility. The IGI's coverage of Southwark parish registers is a bit 'hit and miss'.
Joseph Henry Tarrett
Birth: 28 DEC 1817
Christening: 25 JAN 1818 St George The Martyr's, Southwark, Surrey
Father: Jos. Tarrett
Mother: Elz.
Regards
Valda
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RebeccaNZ
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Thanks for all that information, Valda!
It's really strange because I did a search for the Terrett's on ancestry.com but I couldn't find anything.
Thomas Thomas? Do you think that he could be Jonas Roberts Thomas brother? That could be a really helpful piece of info because I am also searching for the very elusive Jonas R Thomas ...
ShaunJ mentioned that Joseph Terrett could be a cabinet maker so now I know that he was.
Thanks 
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Valda
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Hi Rebecca
You have to be flexible when searching indexes. Census enumerators make mistakes when entering names and don't always spell them correctly. Index transcribers do the best they can and sometimes make poor transcriptions or do the best they can with illegible and faded handwriting.
Jonas Roberts Thomas and Thomas Humphreys Thomas may be brothers. Wotton Under Edge baptism parish registers are covered by the IGI 1578-1812 but neither man's baptism appears in that index.
Regards
Valda
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RebeccaNZ
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thanks
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RebeccaNZ
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Thanks so much for that, Dawn. It was really kind and I really appreciate it.
I have no idea about the witness ... sometimes the handwiriting is so hard to read.
I was trying to figure out where Joseph and Elizabeth were born ... I guess it must have been in the Westminster area.
Thanks again,
Rebecca
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Valda
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Hi
You already know from the 1851 census that it seems unlikely to be the case that Elizabeth was born in Westminster. People were constantly arriving in London and St George Hanover Square was a popular church to marry in. Joseph may have been born in Middlesex or another county. In his case his surname is rarer which should help eventually in tracking him down. Confirming his age on his death would help eliminate some of the candidates that are found on the IGI, as the 1841 census is not an exact age, but supposedly within the nearest five rounded down, so if exact he could be aged anywhere between 60 and 64, ages of course not always being spot on.
Regards
Valda
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RebeccaNZ
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ok, thanks Valda.
In the 1851 census it does state that Elizabeth was born in Middlesex but in Alderham. I don't know if such a place exists but I have searched through the IGI's for Aldenham in Hertfordshire and there appears to be no Elizabeth Read born there at that time - although their are other Read's living in the same area.
I will try to order both their death cert's
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