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Topic: *COMPLETED* Can't Find Warrington / Manchester family prior to 1901 (Read 214 times)
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Rowan Tree
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Hi,
I have a little mystery I am hoping someone reading will be able to help me with. I have a CRAIG family on the 1901 census that I can't find on any earlier censuses. I'm also struggling to find registrations of birth for the children of the family.
This is what I do have:
1901 Census
Source Citation: Class RG13; Piece 3585; Folio 7; Page 5.
32 New Road, Warrington
Head - Elizabeth A CRAIG - 43 (c. 1858) - Manchester - M
Son - John H - 23 (c. 1878) - Manchester - S - Railway Plate Layer
Son - William - 19 (c. 1882) - Warrington - S - Butcher
Son - Thomas - 18 (c. 1883) - Warrington - S - General Labourer
Daughter - Annie (c. 1886) - 15 - Warrington - S - Cotton Winder
Daughter - Edith (c. 1888) - 13 - Warrington
Son - Daniel - 4 (c. 1897) - Warrington
Daughter - Margaret - 1 (c. 1900) - Warrington
The only registrations of birth I have been able to find are for Daniel and Margaret:
Birth - April/May/June 1896
CRAIG, Daniel - Warrington - 8c 266
Birth - October/November/December 1899
CRAIG, Margaret - Warrington - 8c 220
Does anyone think they can find the family on any earlier censuses?
Thanks for reading, Rowan Tree 
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ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN
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jacques
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Hello
Because of the 9 year gap in children, could this be Elizabeth's 2nd Marriage?/
Did you send for the Birth certs of Daniel or Margaret? could be different father to rest.
What was Elizabeths maiden name or former name?
That may account for not being able to find them on earlier census's
Pam
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jacques
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Me again
Know it is a long shot looked for a Marriage for a Craig on BMD prior to Daniels' Birth in 1897
there is this one
Marriage Dec qtr 1893 Warrington 8c 188
Daniel Peebles Craig and an Elizabeth Holliwell
What do you think?
Pam
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danuslave
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This ties in with what I've just found. Lizzie Halliwell with children that match yours, in 1891 census, living in Warrington
Linda
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Rowan Tree
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Pam and Linda you've got it 
Thank you for your excellent detective work.
Marriage Oct/Nov/Dec 1893
Craig, Daniel Peebles
Holliwell, Elizabeth
St. Barnabas, Warrington
1891 Census
Source Citation: Class RG12; Piece: 3079; Folio 36; Page 26
20 Littons Row, Warrington
Head – Lizzie Halliwell – Widow – 33 – Charwoman – Manchester
Son – John H Halliwell – 13 – Scholar – Manchester
Son – Willie Halliwell – 9 – Scholar – Warrington
Son – Thomas Halliwell – 8 – Scholar – Warrington
Daughter – Annie Halliwell – 5 – Scholar – Warrington
Daughter – Edith – 3 – Warrington
Best of Wishes, Rowan Tree
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ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN
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danuslave
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My fashion sense isn't any better now!
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BTW I found this (on ancestry) by going to 1891 census and entering
john h b1878 manchester
mother elizabeth a
sibling annie
and not filling in anything else including surname (ie less is more as keeps being quoted)
It doesn't always work, but it can be useful and sometimes shows up how the transcriber has mangled the surname on the original.
Hope this might help in future searches
Linda
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jacques
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Glad to be of help
Is there in anything else/
Pam
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trish1120
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Great sleuthing everyone 
Possible marriage;
John HALLIWELL
Elizabeth SIXSMITH
June 1879
Wigan 8c 57
Trish
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Rowan Tree
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 11:54 UTC (UK) » |
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A big thank you to Trish, Pam, Laurina and Linda
Some super sluething indeed. I'm very impressed. Well done team.
Best of Wishes to you all, Rowan Tree
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ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN
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