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poppyann
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Nathaniel Jacob
« on: Thursday 25 June 09 15:08 UTC (UK) »
I thought Nathaniel was born in Sussex. But according to the 1841 census he wasn't born in Sussex. I have been looking for him for ages without any luck. He was born about 1767 and married a lady called Lucy Taylor in 1827 in Frant Sussex. I was wondering if he was born in Kent and would appreciate any help in finding his parents. Poppyann
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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 June 09 15:19 UTC (UK) »
What does the marriage record give for his residence?
What names witnessed the 1827 marriage?

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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 June 09 15:30 UTC (UK) »
Hi Pauline, I am sorry but I think I had a senior moment. Nathaniel married a lady called Elizabeth about 1794 and could have been in the Frant area. It was his son Thomas that maried Lucy in 1827. Regards Poppyann
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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 June 09 17:07 UTC (UK) »
So you are looking for a baptism Of Nathaniel Jacob.
Start with his kids: (when where who) and then try to locate that marriage to see what is given there.

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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 June 09 19:54 UTC (UK) »
Hi Pauline, thanks for your ideas. All Nathaniels children were born in Frant Sussex. On the 1841 census it says that Nathaniel wasn't born in Sussex, but so far I have been unable to find his baptism. He was buried in Frant in 1849 so was unable to find him on the 1851 census. Regards Poppyann
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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 June 09 21:36 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: poppyann on Thursday 25 June 09 19:54 UTC (UK)
All Nathaniels children were born in Frant Sussex.
Who & When are these kids?
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poppyann
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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 June 09 06:45 UTC (UK) »
5 children
Thomas baptised 13/8/1797  can't find his death
Thomas baptised 25/10/1801
Nathaniel can't find baptism but according to 1841 census was born about 1794
Elizabeth baptised 29/3/1795
Mary Ann baptised 21/10/1807

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Eyesee
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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 June 09 07:32 UTC (UK) »
No marriage on the Sussex Marriage Index for Nathaniel, that I can see.

From the Sussex Marriage Index
Frant, East Sussex, 7 Sep 1827
Thomas JACOB, bach otp
Lucy TAYLOR, sp otp

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CLAPHAM, Leeds and London
TOMLIENS, Herefordshire and Southwark
CLARKE, Sussex, Cambridge and Shropshire
FAULCONER, MANNINGTON, RICHARDSON, TICEHURST, BROOK, ELPHICK, All Sussex
UDY, CLEMENCE/CLEMENTS,WHITE, COITE, COBELDICK, Cornwall
BROOKING, Devon, India
FERNANDEZ, London, Somerset, Herefordshire
RUSH, CARTER, GIBSON, REMINGTON, London and Surrey
poppyann
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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 June 09 08:32 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Eyesee, I have this marriage Thomas was the son of Nathaniel.
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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 July 09 16:54 UTC (UK) »
Nathaniel JACOB baptised Speldhurst 16 Mar 1794 son of Nathaniel & Elizabeth.  Also Mary Ann 6 Sep 1807 (born 2 Sep 1807)

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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 July 09 06:52 UTC (UK) »
Many thanks for the info Casalguidi. I do have info on these children but I thought they came from Frant. I am still looking for the parents of Nathaniel born about 1767 but according to the 1841 census he wasn't born in Sussex. Poppyann
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Re: Nathaniel Jacob
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 July 09 11:30 UTC (UK) »
Frant was mostly in Sussex but partly in Kent and adjoining Speldhurst see http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Libr/MIs/Location/01.htm and seeing as Nathaniel and Elizabeth don't appear to have married in Sussex it's wise to assume that there were quite possibly earlier children baptised elsewhere ie. Nathaniel junior in Speldhurst.

There was an Adam & Maria JACOB from the Speldhurst/Tunbridge Wells area who also moved to Frant at some stage so there's a good chance that they are related.  Adam born c1780 see your other post http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,338997.msg2286843.html#msg2286843

There is also an Adam and Mary (see monumental inscriptions on your other post mentioned above) who could be the parents of Adam junior.  Adam senior died c1818 and was also a victualler/publican according to a  PCC will downloadable from the National Archives for a fee (I am assuming that this is probably the same man as the one for the MI in Frant).  Could he be Nathaniel's father or even brother/uncle?  Might any will mention Nathaniel? 

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