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lucybella
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Hello again
Today I recieved a reply from Glasgow. They returned all my details, plus my downloaded filled in forms. They said from a quick search they didn't see any records I was looking for, but to fill in the form and send a fee - 30 Sterling pounds, and they would do a better search.
I am wondering whether to go ahead or not....
I was advised by somebody on the phone in Glasgow, that if Thomas Rodgers served in India in 1925, then it was likely his records would have survived.
I have also joined 'Ancestry' for a 14 day trial, and although I see they have some military records, apparently they havn't got to the 'R' names yet. I am thinking maybe I should wait, and watch these names?
I don't know what to do next? Any advice welcome.
Lucy
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mmm45
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Hi Lucybella
Just a thought The Leinster Regiment ceased to be part of the British Army Establishment in 1922 after The Irish Free State was set up....If he has service after that time a more in depth search is probably needed as he would have changed Regiments.
Can you tell me exactly what it states about the 1925 date?? It maybe that its an application for the medals and he doesnt have later service..sadly his records May have been destroyed just a case of waiting for the Rs
Ady 
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lucybella
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Hi mmm
Thanks for your thoughts on this.
I am trying to post the actual medal card, but it's not working for me.
It gives a third regiment no, 7178015 (the other two are the Iniskilling and Leinster numbers I think)
Then AFB 104 -117
IGSM and clasp Malabar d/ 17/4/25
I hope I have transcribed that correctly!
Thanks again
Lucy
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mmm45
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Hi Lucy
As already suggested the Malabar Clasp to IGSM was issued for service 1921-1922 and the Leinsters ceased to be in the British Army in 1922 so maybe there are no records that survive?
It may have been sent out in 1925 to his last known address.
Ady
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lucybella
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Yes mmm, I think that may have been the story. But someone informed me during the phonecall to Glasgow, that if there was service, after WW1 (1914 - 18?) then the records for that soldier would have been stored in a different place. And that is what is giving me hope that some records survive for my granduncle.
Your question has made me wonder what the regiment in India in 21 - 22 were called, and what were they doing? Was it 'peacekeeping'?
Regards
Lucy
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mmm45
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http://chespeak.blogspot.com/2008/05/muhammed-abdurahman-in-days-of-malabar.html
Hi Lucy
They were Leinsters and they were helping the British Empire police a rebellion the above link has a small bit about the Leinsters at that time.
I think that you had a bit off incorrect info WW1 records were classed as up to 1921/22 if they served up to then 99% would be with the "burnt records" that are at Kew/Ancestry You may be lucky and he served on after this time with another regiment so id go for the in depth search.
http://www.leinster-regiment-association.org.uk/history/20th/1919-1922.htm
Have you seen this site? It states that after Disbanding then lads who wanted to soldier on in the British Army could transfer.
Ady
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liverpool annie
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Hi Paul Peter and welcome to RootsChat !
you may have this already but your William is included on CWGC
In Memory of
Private W J HOGAN
2964, 7th Bn., Leinster Regiment
who died age 24
on 20 July 1916
Son of Martin Hogan, of Rock Mount, Kilmacthomas, Co. Waterford; husband of Kate Kirwin (formerly Hogan). Native of Kilrossanty, Kilmacthomas.
Remembered with honour
PHILOSOPHE BRITISH CEMETERY, MAZINGARBE
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mmm45
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Paul all i can add from Soldiers Died In Gt War is he was resident at Kingstown,Co Dublin Enlisted Dublin
Born Killossorty Co Waterford
Ady
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lucybella
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Thanks mmm for your reply. I thought I had posted earlier today, but post seems to have disappeared!! (must be old age setting in....)
Your link is very informative. There is so much detail!
Thanks again
Lucy
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lucybella
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Hello, it's me again, looking for more help please...
I have been waiting for Ancestry to get all the records on line, and now it seems they have!
So I have been searching for granduncle Thomas Rodgers, who's medal card and details are above on this thread (thanks to GrandaRog , mmm45 and other kind people) But I am having no luck whatsoever.
Is it possible that there are still some records from after 1920 not on line?
Would they have them in Glasgow?
I have forms sent back to me from Glasgow, (Historical Disclosures) asking for his death certificate, which I am unable to produce as he went missing in Australia in the 1940's.
I have tried every way of searching on Ancestry, putting in the regiment numbers, name, dates, every combination I can think of, and one or two are possibilities but still cannot confirm the details from the medal card - which is correct due to the address.
Maybe I should go the 'Historical Disclosures' route again? Maybe Ancestry would not have anything on Thomas as it seems his medal from Malabar wasn't given to him until 1925?
Any help gratefully accepted!
Lucy
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