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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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Hi Tamarboy 
Welcome to Rootschat
Boy is this confusing 
1891 has William born 1880 as age 41. Census image is clearly 11.
As Mary Ann is so much younger than William snr this is probably a second marriage.
So it appears, Elizabeth is the Mother of John Vickary c 1873 and your William c 1880 as per 1881 Census DOB7 posted. Although William snr is a baker and in 1891 a masons labourer 
I will have another look at this later tonight.
There is this marriage 1883;
William VICKERY
Mary Ann ARNALL
March 1883
Barnstaple 5b 745
And a death;
Elizabeth VICKERY
June 1882
Taunton 5c 254
Age 36 ( born abt 1846)
Do you have the Marriage Cert of William jnr to confirm his parents names. Could you post details please.
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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Do you also have his birth cert?
Birth rego;
William Henry VICKARY
March 1880
Plymouth 5b 286
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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CLAUDE Vickary;
Births;
Frederick.W.J. VICKARY
March 1913, Plymouth, 5b 310
Claude.A.H.VICKARY
March 1817, Plymouth, 5b 371
Mothers name SMITH on both reg.
There would be others I am sure as married 1905, but pre Sept. 1911 Mothers maiden name is not shown. These are possibles reg. in Plymouth.
Doris Lilian.S, 1905
James Henry 1907
Ada K L, 1910
Marriage;
William Henry VICKARY
Alice Louisa SMITH
September 1904
Plymouth 5b 525
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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TamarBoy
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Thanks for the quick replies.....
I have William Henry's birth certificate, shows father as William & Mother as Mary Parnall. 7th January 1880. Surname is definately VICARY.
The FreeGen 1891 census info shows them living at 6/7 St Andrews Street
William Vicary age 67
Mary Ann age 47
William Henry age 11. This date correct as I have seen his grave stone.
On a BMD search I have found Mary Ann Parnell born in Rattery 1844.
If there was an elder son he has not been mentioned. Unfortunately all parents & grandparents have long since passed.
Frederick W J Vicary, born December 1912 (my father) & Claude A H Vicary (his brother). Father William Henry Vicary, Mother Alice Louisa Smith. The Ada K L is Ada Katherine Louisa thier sister.
Thanks for your help / confirmation though the use of the "K" in all registers is confusing.
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Devon: Vicary, Searle, Lillicrap, Pointon, Smith, Crocker, May.
Ireland: Hoctor.
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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Yes, regos an be very incorrect in the transcription
Thank you for posting the info re his birth cert.
What is his Fathers occupation?
The 1891 on Ancestry has William jnr incorrectly transcribed as age 41. As I said the image is actually 11. It is the same address you quoted.
I think you will find William and Marys marriage reg is the one I posted, incorrectly transcribed, as there is NO other marriage 1847+ for a Mary/Mary Ann/Anne Parnell on Freebmd with a Vickary/Vickery on the same page.
Cheers,
Trish
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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More confusion for you family;
1851 Census
HO107/1874/541/21
Village of Rattery
Rattery, Devon
William PARNALL, 62,head, mar, laborer, Devonshire, Rattery
Mary Parnell, 59, mar, wife, Leicestershire, Loughborough
Mary Parnell, 20, daug, unm, Leics, Loughborough
MARY ANN PARNELL, 7 , GRAND-DAUGHTER, BORN DEVONSHIRE, RATTERY.
Trish
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TamarBoy
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Trish,
thankyou for the Mary Ann confirmation, from that it would look as though she was "born the wrong side of the blanket" as we say.
I've just started to look at my mothers' side and that appears to be just as difficult once you get past 1891.
Marty.
Other Family Names. Searle, Lillicrap, Pointon, Rabbits, Mellish.
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Devon: Vicary, Searle, Lillicrap, Pointon, Smith, Crocker, May.
Ireland: Hoctor.
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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Hi Marty,
It is hard to say at this stage if she was illegitimate. 1841 census has another daughter Elizabeth, slightly older. Due to the ages of the Parnalls they could have lots of children who had left home by 1841.
Her birth cert would be the way to confirm;
Mary Ann PARNELL
December 1844
Totnes 9 477
Trish
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Trees
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Can't see the wood for the !!!
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I too am struggling with Vicory/Vicary families
Benjamin and Ann(5X gt grandparents) had a Jane 1750 and Susanna in 1752 in Merton are the Merton records n line please?
Then further out on the twigs a Charlotte Vickery m Charles French Folland Barnstaple 1836
if anyone should stumble on these please let me know
Trees
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