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bobgraham
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The story of Carlisle
« on: Friday 26 June 09 07:38 UTC (UK) »
Just fallen over a book written in 1958 for the children of Carlisle and published by the Education Committee to comemmerate the 800 year anniversary of the first charter to the city. It's called the The Story of Carlisle but unfortunately there is no ISBN to identify it with. Not many families (a few posh ones) but interesting in the development of the city and especially the cathedral.
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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 June 09 07:43 UTC (UK) »
Bob, I f you you checked the British Library Catalogue theymight  have additional info re its publication.
It should be there as it was published in UK... funny one not having an ISBN

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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 June 09 07:51 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: charlotteCH on Friday 26 June 09 07:43 UTC (UK)
... funny one not having an ISBN

Too early for that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isbn
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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 June 09 11:28 UTC (UK) »
I thought that might be the case Geoff. It was actually published by "The City of Carlisle Education Committee Fisher Sreet Carlisle" so presumably every kid in Carlisle got one. This has a red cover but my wife insists hers had a blue cover. I'm turning the house upside down to see if it's the same book.
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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 June 09 11:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi Bob

Thank you!

I love ones on the city.  Are we talking Glovers Row and the one at right angles to it for the extra buildings?

I think I've seen the book you mean.  Is there one in the library?  I actually saw one someone borrowed. I didn't know it had been issued to the school children though.

I'll look for my map and see what comes up.

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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 June 09 12:28 UTC (UK) »
Although somewhat earlier, there is a similar book by the education committee on the city of my birth- http://tinyurl.com/mc42bj

I think I remember it as a book at junior school.  Perhaps they were allowed to teach local history in those days.
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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 June 09 13:19 UTC (UK) »
No Emms, it's taken rooftop level of the old townhall with the steps on the right. There looks to be a row of shops (at least 1 with a veranda) parallel to and infront of what is now topshop and jessops. Ward & Story on one and (initials) Carruthers on another and they end in front of the drycleaners. There is then another building set back in front of the cathedral with a lot of writing on it's gable end. I suppose if I were 40 years younger, I might be able to read it. There is no date but it is "courtesy of the Cumberland News" and judging by the clothes I would say late victorian, edwardian.
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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 June 09 21:03 UTC (UK) »
Hi Bob

One of my my maps has the fish market near tgere, but I need to take a more leisurely look.

I'll have a look at some other bits too.

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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 June 09 07:48 UTC (UK) »
Hi Emms. Went to my old friend, historicaldirectories and found Carruthers grocers in the green market, 1894 but Ward and Story also grocers in the market square, same year! Also there is  Williams M & E, milleners as the first shop in the green market which corresponds to a part name where the drycleaners is now. So I think we can say photo from late 19th century.
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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:32 UTC (UK) »
Hi

My old photo of Glovers Row", demolished 1896"

has Blakey's Boots and Shoes, two more shops? I can't read then looks like Carruthers jutting out slightly.  I found the Greenmarket entries too.

One in the background has the awning.  Across the road, at right angles to it.  Could be the modern cleaners.

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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:35 UTC (UK) »
PS Modern map says Green Market is still there from Castle street to Fisher Street, near the end of St Alban's Row!

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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #11 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:53 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Is this it?

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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:54 UTC (UK) »
And this?

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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #13 on: Monday 29 June 09 14:13 UTC (UK) »
Yes Emms, thats definitely the Green Market but those are very modern photos. The half timbered building is the Guildhall and I think genuinley middle ages. The one up for sale/let had a problem about 15-20 years ago where it hadn't been occupied and the roof was letting in pigeons. The weight of guano got so great that after a rainstorm that allowed the guano to adsorb lots of water the upstairs ceiling ended up on the downstairs floor with middle floors underneath it. A friend of mine got the job of fixing it.
Geoff, just got back from a school reunion - first visit in 45 years - to find school celebrates 400 years in 2012. Also there was the headmaster (84yo) who "expelled" me all those years ago but didn't remember the incident! Happy days.
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Re: The story of Carlisle
« Reply #14 on: Monday 29 June 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »
Hi Bob,

Yes, I now they're modern, but where do your old buildings ion the photo, fit in with the old buildings on here?

Thank you for telling us about the guano, by the way, and what's more to the point, are we allowed to ask why he expelled you?

Going out!

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