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MBW
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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My 2xGreat Grandfather was Edward Wilkinson born c1821. He was the son of Chistinia (nee Ridding/Redding) and Edmund Wilkinson. In 1851 and 1861 census it says he was born in Whittington, Lancashire and in 1871 he says born in Whittington, Westmorland and in 1881 census he was born in Kirkby Lonsdale (where Christinia was born!). I believe that Whittington is on the border of Lancs and Westmorland. Does anyone know which county it was in then (1821)?
MBW
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mosiefish
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John Knowles 1896 to 1917
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Hi,
It was in Lancashire in 1821 and as you say right on the boundary. See:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Whittington/
Regards,
Mo
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukLancs: Harrison, Entwistle, Devine, Grundy, Ashworth, Freeman, Jackson, Rushton Cornwall: Rich, Binney, Peake Devon: Walters |
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MBW
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Hello,
Thank you for your reply mosiefish. I have been looking for more info on Edward's parents. Edmond was born in Lancashire in about 1785. He was a stone mason. Christinia Ridding/Redding was born in about 1789, in Kirkby Lonsdale and I believe I have found them on the 1841 census in Ford Lane, Eccles, together with Edward aged 20. I have not been able to find their deaths or any sign of them on later censuses. Can anyone help me with this?
MBW
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Manchester Rambler
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This death would match where the couple were living in 1841:
Deaths Sep 1852
WILKINSON Christiana
Salford 8d 3
The 1851 census for Manchester and Salford was badly water-damaged, and although some of the information has been recovered, there are still big gaps: http://www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk/
(There is also a possible death for Edmund in Manchester in 1949 1849 - edit!)
Rambler
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« Last Edit: Thursday 22 October 09 09:13 UTC (UK) by Manchester Rambler »
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ANT: Nesbit, Potts CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton MAY: Caulfield, Griffin SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory SOM: Dowding, James, Jones Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MBW
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Hello Manchester Rambler,
Thank you so much for your speedy reply! I will certainly send for the certificate of Christiana.
Many thanks again for your help.
MBW
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Luzzu
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Hi,
Have you seen these baptism records?:-
Baptism: 26 Aug 1821 St Michael the Archangel, Whittington, Lancashire, England
Edward Wilkinson - Son of Edward Wilkinson & Christiana
Abode: Whittington
Occupation: Stonemason
Baptised by: Thos Baker Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1874, Page 17, Entry 134
Source: LDS Film 1796146
Baptism: 22 Jun 1823 St Michael the Archangel, Whittington, Lancashire, England
Betsey Wilkinson - Child of Edward Wilkinson & Christiana
Abode: Whittington
Occupation: Stonemason
Baptised by: Thos Baker Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1874, Page 20, Entry 155
Source: LDS Film 1796146
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Whittington/index.html
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MBW
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Hello Luzzu,
Thank you so much for your info. I never knew about Betsey!! They had another daughter Isabella who was born in Rochdale in 1826.
Thank you again for your time.
MBW
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Luzzu
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Hi,
I know you already know of Isabella but just in case your haven't got her baptism:-
Baptism: 23 Oct 1825 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
Isabella Wilkinson - Daughter of Edward Wilkinson & Christiana
Abode: School Lane
Occupation: Mason
Baptised by: Jas. Aspinale Curate
Register: Baptisms 1822 - 1825, Page 508, Entry 4118
Source: LDS Film 1342496
I was hoping to find Edward and Christiana's marriage but no luck yet.
Luzzu
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Luzzu
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Found it.
England & Wales Marriages 1538-1940
Name: Christianna Redding
Gender: Female
Spouse's Name: Edward Wilkinson
Marriage Date: 6 Nov 1817
Marriage Place: Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England
Place: Kirkby Lonsdale, Westmorland, England; Date Range: 1754 - 1901; Film Number: 1471664
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MBW
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Hello Luzzu,
Thank you , Thank you again. I did not have the baptism details or the marriage place. I know a bit about Christiana's parents, but I do not know who Edmund's parents were, so if you can weave your magic over their details I would be very grateful!
Thank you again for all your help.
MBW
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Luzzu
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You are welcome.
Running out of ideas at the moment  .
There are a few Edward Wilkinson baptisms on www.familysearch.org in the late 1700's for but none that I could definitely say were yours.
On www.lan-opc.org.uk there is a gap between 1749 and 1813 on the baptism records for St Michael the Archangel. My feeling is that if he was born in Whittington he would have been baptised at this Church. Not sure why there is a gap - either the records didn't survive or they are still to be transcribed.
Does the family have any links with Downham (near Blackburn and Clitheroe)? There are loads of Wilkinsons on www.lan-opc.org.uk
It might be a good idea to try and find out who Isabella and Betsey married. Also it is possible Betsey died in infancy as you said you hadn't come across her before. Also 3 children doesn't seem many for the time - I think there must be more to find.
Best of luck with your searching and if you find any clues post them on here, you will get loads of help. In the meantime, I will keep a look out.
Luzzu
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MBW
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Hello Luzzu,
Isabella married William Brown and died in 1899 in Tottenham. I will see if I can find any sign of Betsy.
Thank you again for all your time.
MBW
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MBW
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Hello Manchester Rambler,
Thank you so much. I sent for Christiana Wilkinson's death certificate and it is the right one!!!!! It states that she is a widow so now I will search for Edmund's death between 1841 and 1851. The Informant was Dorothy Wilkinson who is someone who I have not come across before. She lived in Sovereign Street, Pendleton, but I think that is in the area that was damaged in the 1851 census returns (as was Ford Lane ,where Christiana lived!!!)
Thank you again for your help. I have been searching for this info for ages without success and you and rootschat solved it in days.
MBW
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