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Helina
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Help with the Gibbs family please................
« on: Friday 26 June 09 17:00 UTC (UK) »

Could do with some help with this family.

Charles Gibbs born 1856<c> Henton, married Elizabeth Jane Wride born 1857, in 1876 Bristol.  Would like to know who his parents were.

Children

James Christopher Charles Gibbs born 1877 Bristol,
Frances Beatrice Gibbs born 1879
Roselind Mandie born 1880
Florence Gibbs born 1880
Bertie Edward Colston Gibbs born 1881
Laura A Gibbs born 1884
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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 June 09 17:06 UTC (UK) »

Sorry clicked the key by mistake

William J Gibbs born 1886
Frank Gibbs born 1887
Harry G Gibbs born 1888

Any help would be appreciated

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 June 09 17:38 UTC (UK) »

Hello Helina,

I would say that this is probably him but you would need to get a marriage certificate to verify his father:

1861 RG9; Piece: 1707; Folio: 80; Page: 10

Farm House Winford Somerset

James Gibbs head married 39  Farmer b Camely (?) Somerset
Mary Gibbs wife 34  b Henton Somerset
Patience Gibbs daur 9 
Thomas Gibbs son 8 
Mary E Gibbs daur 6 
Charles Gibbs son  5 
Frederick Gibbs  son 3 
Sarah Gibbs daur 1 
John H Gibbs  son 2 Mo 
Hannah Coombs servant 18  b Coley Somerset
Henry Young servant 14  b Winford

all children born Winford

in view of father's name being carried on by Charles' son and mother's birthplace- it does look likely.

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #3 on: Friday 26 June 09 17:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Helina


1861 census for Farm House Winford Somerset

James Gibbs 39  Farmer b Camely Somerset
Mary Gibbs 34  Wife b Henford
Patience Gibbs 9  Dau  b Winford Som
Thomas Gibbs 8   Son b Winford Som
Mary E Gibbs 6   Dau  b Winford Som
Charles Gibbs 5   Son b Winford Som
Frederick Gibbs 3   Son b Winford Som
Sarah Gibbs 1   Dau  b Winford Som
John H Gibbs 2 weeks   Son b Winford Som
Hannah Coombs 18  Servant b Coley som
Henry Young 14 Servant b Winford Som

RG9; Piece: 1707 Folio: 80 Page 10

1871 census for 1 Paddock Bristol Glos


John Gibbs     50 Head Ag Lab b Camely Som
Mary Gibbs    45 wife b Henton som
Thomas Gibbs    18 Son Plasterer b Winford Som
Charles Gibbs    15 Son  General Servant b Winford Som
Frederick Gibbs Son 13  b Winford Som
Sarah Gibbs    12  b Winford Som
John H Gibbs    10  b Winford Som
Emily Gibbs    9  b Winford Som
Matilda Gibbs    7  b Henton Som
Mary A E Gibbs    4  b Bristol Som

The rest of the children are scholars

RG10 Piece 2558 Folio 11 Page 13

I think this may be your Charles as his mother is born in Henton and so is Matilda and they are only about 10 miles from each other.

Heywood beat me to it

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #4 on: Friday 26 June 09 17:58 UTC (UK) »

Well that's two of us who think the same  Grin

By the way Helina, the children in of Charles and Elizabeth Jane are not quite the same in censuses- maybe some died in infancy?
Also does she change her name to Lily or is it a different woman?

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #5 on: Friday 26 June 09 21:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Helina

I believe this will be Charles birth

Births Jun Quarter 1856

GIBBS    Charles    Bedminster    5c    801 [this covers Winford]

I have just noticed that the father's name is James in 1861 & John in 1871, also James is a farmer but John is an Ag Lab, which seems a bit of a come down.

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 June 09 21:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi Helina

I found the following family in the 1851 Census for Cameley, Somerset

Thomas Gibbs  60 Head Widower Farmer of 200 acres, 1 Labourer b Winford
William Gibbs    34 Son b Nempnett
Thomas Gibbs    32 son b Nempnett
Elizabeth Gibbs    30 dau  b Nempnett
James Gibbs    28 son b Cameley
Zachariah Gibbs    26 son b Cameley
Henry Patch    18 General Servant b Winford
Ann Haase    16 Servant b Stratton
   
 HO107 Piece 1938 Folio 126 Page 4

All children unmarried. I wonder if it is an error on the 1871 Census or Mary remarried.

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 June 09 21:40 UTC (UK) »

Helina

1851 Census taken on Mar 30th 1851 so the marriage will be after that.

This is a marriage for

Marriages Jun Quarter 1851 
Dowling    Mary        Clutton    11   135     [covers Cameley]
Gibbs    James         Clutton    11   135

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 June 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »

Wendy - Helina also has this search on the BBC Family History board.  It is now believed that there are 2 separate families involved - one with children born in Bristol, the other with children born in Bath.

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 June 09 21:57 UTC (UK) »

OK

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 27 June 09 10:38 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for your help, especially finding the parents. As Kanskar mentioned I have a similar post on the BBC but we have been sorting out the children which is a real mix up.

I have the correct Charles Gibbs born 1856 married to Elizabeth Jane Wride though, so the parents you have found I.m sure will be correct, but I'll order a birth certificate for Charles just to confirm them.

Thanks again.

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 27 June 09 11:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Helina

IGI has the following http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp
   
James Gibbs    
Birth:     About 1822     Cameley, Somerset, England   Marriage:  1851     Clutton District, , Somerset, England
 Wife  Mary Dowling Birth:     About 1825     Hinton, , Somerset, England

Children
1.         Patience Gibbs     
Birth:     About 1852     Winford, Somerset, England

2.         Thomas Gibbs
Birth:     About 1853     Winford, Somerset, England
   
3.         Mary E Gibbs    
Birth:     About 1855     Winford, Somerset, England

4.         Charles Gibbs
Birth:     About 1856     Winford, Somerset, England
   
5.         Frederick Gibbs    
Birth:     About 1858     Winford, Somerset, England
   
6.         Sarah Gibbs
Birth:     About 1860     Winford, Somerset, England
   
7.         John Henry Gibbs         
Birth:     About 1861     Winford, Somerset, England
Death:     1893     Bristol, Gloucester, England
    
8.         Emily E Gibbs
Birth:     About 1863     Winford, Somerset, England
   
9.         Matilda Gibbs    
Birth:     About 1865     Hinton, , Somerset, England
   
10.         Mary A E Gibbs    
Birth:     About 1868     Bristol, Gloucester, England

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 27 June 09 11:59 UTC (UK) »




Hi Helina

this could be Thomas's second marriage

Marriages Jun 1853      
Gibbs    Thomas         Clutton    5c   1149         
Oland    Ilet         Clutton    5c   1149


1861 Census for Cameley

Thomas Gibbs  70 Head Farmer of 200 Acre employing 3 men & 2 boys b Winford Somerset
Het Gibbs    50 Wife b Purlock [Porlock] Somerset
William Combs 14 Un Servant b Hinton Blewett
Frank Dando    13 Unm Servant b Temple Cloud
   
RG9 Piece 1677 Folio 104 Page 24

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 27 June 09 12:03 UTC (UK) »

Helina

Here is the 1871 Census for Cameley Somerset

Thomas Gibbs  81 Head Retired farmer b Winford Som
Ilet Gibbs    56 Wife Shopkeeper b Porlock Som
Amelia A Hand    9 Servant b Hinton Blewett Som
   
RG10 Piece 2467 Folio 96 Page 2

Deaths Mar 1873
Gibbs    Thomas aged 83   Clutton    5c    470

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Re: Help with the Gibbs family please................
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 27 June 09 12:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Helena

I have found Thomas's first wife & mother of James Gibbs. As it wasn't on the search, I went into Cameley and looked through the pages & copied the info from the image.

1841 census for Cameley

Thomas Gibbs 50 Yeoman
Patience 55
William 20
Thomas 20
Elizabeth 20
James 20
Zachariah 15
All born in Somerset & all ages rounded down or up.

H0107/939/2/p 12 [24 on image] Enumeration district 15

Deaths Dec 1847
Gibbs    Patience    Clutton    11    75

I do hope Charles' father is James.

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