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Topic: Lost family member in Manchester area (Read 1298 times)
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emmsthheight
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Hi Migky
looks like clutching at straws, but he isn't on CWGC or the medal cards reenlised is he? Possibly separate record - I know as you said they were fussy early on, but some men who were turned down were conscripted, later, fit or not.
Or passenger lists leaving Britain?
Electoral registers?
Just a thought!
Best wishes
Emms
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emmsthheight
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Hi Migky
Yes, I'd forgotten, the problem you'd have in somewhere as big as Manchester..That's where we score woith being in a smaller town. Tne layout seems to vary too, so it's not too bad to look at.
I'd forgotten, I once emailed them for a look-up even with an address, ad because there were three streets with the same name, I had to choose one, even though two of them were two ends of the same street!
So I dodn't get my info!
Good luck anyway!
Emms
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emmsthheight
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Hi Migky
I'd love us to get to the bottom of this one for you.
Can I ask if you know where your Leonard Madden came from?
I'm only asking because before I read any of your extra information, as soon as I saw your names, Madden, Leonard and Duffy, my immediate reaction was Irish, in Rochdale area, and the particular tribe I'm thinking of had connections in Blackburn, Burnley and other towns further inland. Some also went to Manchester.
I had some grave entries for Heywoood and these names featured on the little area plan for those close by.
I never got to the bottom of it. There were always loads of them together and they intermarried. I did find one Madden marriage in St Patrick's RC Rochdale - goodness knows where I put it!
Mainly though, I wondered if with him being so down on his luck, might he have gone back to where he had earlier connections. Then the age on the Blackburn death fitted so well. It would be where he died, not necessarily where he was living.
I guess it sounds out of the question, though.
I do have some Maddens alive in 1953, but not Leonard. I could send the list if it kight give any clues.
Best wishes
Emms
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emmsthheight
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Hi Migky
I hardly dare say this, but there are only five Leonard Maddens on the 1911 Census. The other four are ten years old and younger. So we're lacking another Leonard to die in Blackburn.
Of course another one could have come ovewr from Ireland or down from Scotland in the next few years.
Interestingly, there is a ten year old in Oldham of the right name, so he could account for your marriage and rule out your Leonard from that.
That leaves a five year old in Chorton, a four year old in Huddersfield and a three year old in Lambeth.
Of course I haven't checked all spellings.
Just a thought!
Emms
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emmsthheight
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PS No Leonard Maddens in Ireland in 1911 so far.
All the counties are covered but they have still to add any entries submitted in the Irish language, and a few other bits.
It's worth a look for anyone reading with ancestors in Lancashire as so many had links to Ireland. It's all free - search, results, scans of originals and trawling families by streets!
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
Best wishes
Emms
Modified: Some counties are [u][/u][b][/b]missing: See Argadowey's update today - so Leonard Madden could be hiding.!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,395632.0.html
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emmsthheight
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Hi Migky, Heywood.
Stroke of genius, Heywood!
I was thinking Catholic again because all the ones I've come across were. But I never thought of looking it up because there would be so many places in Manchester, but of coure, what you've picked up on, if he did have a funeral in Billington, the choice of RC churches is much narrower!
Billington St Mary? No burials in any of the Blackburn ones in LRO list, but maybe somewhere else? Blackburn papers?
What I was thinking was this was not long after the end of the war. My grabndfather wasn't even home at this stage. Even if he was refused by the military, he would quite likely have been given war work, and the country was still in a state. There would be a shortage of men by 1919.
He may well have been sent away from home, to work and this wouldn't reaslly have been far. My Grandfather's sister was sent to the area north west of there having been born in Salford as a land girl.
Good hunting, Migky
Best wishes
Emms 
Edited: PS I wonder where the records for War Work went? Who administered it? 
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