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Topic: Miles' family in Gillingham (Read 269 times)
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jmec73
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Hi,
I hope it's OK to ask for some help here as I've done in other county lookups for other relatives.
I fear this might be a tricky one as I have very little information. My grandfather was Ernest WT Miles, b. March 1920 in Gillingham, Kent. I'm afraid I never got the chance to ask his parents' names before he died so I don't have any more information than this other than I know he was the only child. So, any possible candidates for his mother and father and any other family from any info would be great, and any other tips or pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.
Jon.
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bearkat
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There is a birth registration for Ernest W T MILES in the June quarter of 1920 vol 2a page 1324, Dartford Registration District. Mother's maiden name MILES.
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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casalguidi
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Hi Jon
If he was C of E then you may be able to find his baptism in the online parish registers at Medway Cityark http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/
Casalguidi 
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jmec73
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Hi,
Thank you both very much for the pointers, much appreciated. I am, though, now intrigued that the birth register had 'Miles' as his mother's maiden name given that his surname was 'Miles' and therefore not his father's name! I have had a look at the Medway archives as you suggest and for St Alban, Dartford found baptism details in May 1920 (he was born end of March) for Ernest William (and he was Ernest William Terrence) Miles, who was born to Albert and Ella May something - I'm afraid I can't decipher the surname, but certainly not Miles which would perhaps explain the name anomaly? I will try and attach the scan here in the hope that someone more used to reading handwriting can suggest some names for me if that's OK.
Many thanks for the ongoing help.
Cheers,
Jon.]]
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jmec73
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I'm having trouble attaching the scan - any hints would be appreciated, or I could email of preferable?
Thanks.
Jon.
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casalguidi
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Hi Jon
It is easier to post a link. If the link is rather long (as the Medway Cityark image ones are) you can use the "shrink a link" button at the bottom of any Rootschat page thus
http://www.rootschat.com/links/06kv/ (note - link not working correctly at present)
Are you thinking about the Ernest William CAMP? He might not be the one you are looking for as there is a separate birth registration for him see http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
Are you working your way through all the registers in the Dartford/Medway area?
Incidentally, image attachment is disabled on "Lookup Requests" boards here on Rootschat.
Casalguidi
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bearkat
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You say Ernest was an only child but there is another MILES birth in the Dartford Registration District with the mother's maiden name MILES - Selina N, June quarter of 1921 vol 2a page 1277.
The Dartford Registration District covers a wider area than the town of Dartford. See
http://www.kent-opc.org/Maps/Registration_Districts/Dartford.jpg
As you can see searching through Medway Cityark could be a long haul 
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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jmec73
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Hi,
Thank you both. You're right that it was Ernest Miles Camp on the one I'd seen, so not my grandad. Thanks also for the Dartford district map (I think ;o) ) I'll let you know what I find.
Cheers,
Jon.
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jmec73
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Hello again,
I've now got the birth certificate for my Grandad:
His mother was Edith Miles, who was living at the Rising Sun PH in Bexley when Ernest William Miles was born on 29/03/1920, and he was actually born in the pub! No father is listed.
So, any help with pinpointing his mother and ancestors in census returns, or any pointers would still be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks for any help.
Jon.
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casalguidi
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It couldn't get much harder than this could it  
I suppose the next certain event for him would be a marriage wouldn't it? Do you know when/where/who your grandfather marries? Just wondering if there is a clue ie. address/names of witnesses on the certificate which might be a pointer for your gt grandmother or her family?
Casalguidi
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bearkat
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Clutching at straws but could she have named her son after her brother and uncle
In 1901 there is an Edith MILES aged 5, born Swanley, living with her parents, Walter & Alice both aged 26 and brother William age 7 and "brother-in-law" Ernest Letchford. All living at 10 Wents Cottages, Sutton at Hone.
RG13/708 folio 79 page 34
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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jmec73
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Sorry this is a tricky one 
He married Mary Eileen Cutler in c.1944 (certainly during the war) and it was probably in the Portsmouth area as that's where she came from.
Hope that helps. I'll see if I can confirm that date for sure.
Thanks.
Jon.
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bearkat
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I'm not sure the marriage date is going to help.  - unless he named his father on the marriage certificate.
Even if there is a name it could be the man who brought him up not his natural father or he could have just made up a name.
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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casalguidi
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Yes, if he married away from home during war time then perhaps the marriage certificate won't help?
Does the name MEDHURST ring any bells
Casalguidi
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jmec73
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Sorry, Medhurst doesn't mean anything to me, but that's not to say it isn't linked. What was the connection?
Thanks.
Jon.
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