Kirwan
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Am looking for confirmation of the death of Ann Greaves originally from Bakewell on 11th July 1866 aged 89 at Leavenshulme, Manchester and was possibly buried at St Johns Church, Longsight, Manchester.
Thanks Kirwan
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CaroleW
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1851 census for Bakewell
Ann Greaves 73 innkeeper widow - no birthplace shown
Alex Balmarris 20 g/son b United States
Charles Hudson 15 g/son b London
Emily Bradley 22 g/dtr b London
plus a lot of servants and some visitors
The address is not the Rutland Arms but I think it was situated in Rutland Place - it's the something Arms which only has 4 letters
HO107 Piece 2149 Folio 22 Page 8
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Kirwan
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Thanks Jan, but I don't think its the same person. Kirwan
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Kirwan
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Thank you Carole, that's her, looks as if her grandson by her first marriage was there as well. If the information I have is correct then she would not have been on the 1861 census for Bakewell but should have been on the 1861 census for the kirkmanshulme district of Manchester, possibly living alone or with her daughter Ann Bradley. The latter would support the view she did not die in Bakewell in 1855 but lived on till 1866 dying near Manchester
Kirwan
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CaroleW
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Another unhelpful census entry
1861 for Kirkmanshulme and Newton Lancs
Stockport Rd - Lodge View
Ann Greaves widow 83 b Swannwick Derbyshire - no occupation shown and she is living alone although she is erroneously shown as a member of the adjoining household who were a brother & sister surname Whittaker
RG9 Piece 2968 Folio 16 Page 32
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Kirwan
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Brilliant! Thanks so much. This appears to be the one I'm looking for. Dates tie up and also the fact that she was born in Swannwick, Derbyshire.
Forgive my ignorance, what does the RG9 Piece 2968 Folio 16 Page 32 stand for? Is this information available on the internet or do you have to pay for a subscription to a website, if so which?
Again thanks, this was the lady who 'invented' the Bakewell Pudding!
Kirwan
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CaroleW
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The RG9 etc is the census reference for tracing purposes.
You need an Ancestry or FindMyPast subscription to search all except the 1881 census
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Kirwan
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Thanks, much appreciated. Kirwan
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Kirwan
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sorry, I thought of one final question. The 1851 census doesn't give a place of birth for Ann Greaves, does the 1841 census for Bakewell give a place of birth for her? regards. Kirwan
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CaroleW
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Hi
The 1841 does not show birthplaces - just a Y or N against the entry to indicate whether they were born in the county in which they were living at the time of the census
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Kirwan
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Thank you, I presume there was a Y for Anne.
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CaroleW
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Yes - there was
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Kirwan
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Great. Thank you so much for all your help. Kirwan
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