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Bridget530
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Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« on: Thursday 25 June 09 19:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I have two Rimmer relatives that sailed aboard the Mauretania, Aquitania and Scythia, I think between Liverpool and Ellis Island.

I was wondering whether there is somewhere I could find out more information or passenger lists or whether someone can look at lists for me on Ancestry etc.

I was told that William Rimmer b 1890 was a master of arms (I think this is how you spell it!) on the Mauretania but can find no info on this.

Timothy Rimmer b 1893 sailed as a crew member on the Aquitania and Scythia, I think around 1919 onwards. I have a photo which I will try and add which shows a man in a uniform photographed with Martha Rimmer and thought perhaps this could be William or Timothy. Does anyone know anymore about the uniform?


Any help would be very much appreciated

Thank you everybody

Bridget


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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 June 09 20:30 UTC (UK) »

Ho Bridget

What a lovely photo!

I hope between us we can help you out.  Can you clarify so I've got this right?  Is the information you have from family information, olr have you found some on line already?

I don't have Ancestry just now, or credits on findmypast, but you can search free and I'll have a go.

There are some other places you can try too.  I'll try and find the links.

There are some lists on Moving Here on the National Archives site.

If we don't succeed you can try Ancestry in many public libraries here and elsewhere.  The advantage is, they have many Immigration lists and passenger lists for America which we don't.  Also, Canada.

You usually just pay for Internet time unless you are on benefits or unwaged, a youth eytc and get it free, and also copies, but you can save to a flash rive and print it at home.

Of course you have some ships names.  Have you tried just putting one of those and possibly a name or date into a search engine and seeing what comes up?


I'll have a ;
look at findmypast and get back.

Best wishes

Emms

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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 June 09 20:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi Emms

The information I have is from family.  I found some records of a Timothy Rimmer aboard the Aquitania listed as linen keeper, lift attendant etc. but would a uniform such as the one in the photo be worn for this?  Of course it may not be Timothy!

I'm desperately trying to find out some info for William on the Mauretania and I have a photo of a Rimmer in what looks like a white uniform on this ship but I haven't scanned it in yet!  I just can't find any records.

I have googled for passenger lists without success and someone did mention I may have to go to maritime archives for this.

Any help would be absolutely fantastic... thank you

Bridget
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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 June 09 20:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Me again!

I've looked on www.findmypast.com

There was Timothy Rimmer with a promising birth date, and some T Rimmers.  The ship isn't given in the results, but putting the name in the search didn't work.  Of course they were probaby on other ships.

For William ther are quite a few results.  Ypou can try searchiung and experimenting with different ship' name spellings, but it may be worth buying the list for that one Timothy and the best William.  You can just buy credits.

You could also look for his seaman's record.  Try the National Archives site.

I'll se what else I can see.

Best wishes

Emms
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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 June 09 20:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi again.

I'm no expert on uniforms, buit I thought the one you've already posted looked like just the right one for sailors who would do jobs such as that.  I've a photo of someone in similar uniforn inn a large group.  I've never found much out though.

Maybe someone who knows these things will look in!  If not, you could try posting it on a board covering the occupations.  I'm not sure if there is a specific board.  It's not navy.  Merchant navy?  If not, just the occupations board, with a clear heading.

Good luck!

Emms
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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 June 09 21:16 UTC (UK) »

Hey, putting it on the occupations board is a good idea.  You've been so helpful... thank you so much Emms.

Everyone on this site is so helpful, it's fantastic.

Bridget
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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 June 09 21:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi
The Timothy Rimmer that Emms mentioned sailed from Liverpool to St Johns NB Canada on the 24th November 1942 aboard the Beaverhill. (info from FMP)

I'm not sure that the passenger lists on FMP cover sailors or whether they just list pasengers.

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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 June 09 22:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Bridget

You're welcome!

Hi Jan

I'm not sure either what the actual policy is, and I'm not sure how complete these are either, but I do know I've had some of my Hoey seamen appear on a few lists and the only record I have for my Patmore captain is a list bought from fmp.  So worth a go?

Thank you for posting the info from Timothy, too.  I just used my last but one credit this morning, and it's not much use on its own!

Best wishes

Emms
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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 June 09 18:58 UTC (UK) »

hiya bridget.
the aquitania was being refitted from november 1919 till june 1920
if your relative was sailing on her in 1919,before her refit,then he was sailing to canada,she was being used,to repatriate canadian soldiers back home
her history.
converted to an armed merchant cruiser on 7-8-14,then refitted to become a troopship on 18-6-15,operating at gallipoli
from dec 1915 till jan 1916,she was used as a hospital ship at gallipoli
on 10-4-1916,she was de-commissioned but re-commissioned in nov 1916,again as a hospital ship
in 1917,she was anchored in the solent,then in dec the same year,she was used to transport american troops to france.
after the armistice,she took canadian soldiers home to canada.

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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 June 09 19:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mack,

Thanks for this, he was supposed to be a master of arms aboard the ship.  Do you know anything about this, what a master of arms does etc.?

Thanks
Bridget
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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 June 09 19:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Mack,

Forget what I just wrote... I should read properly before replying doh!!!

Wrong relative, I was talking about William aboard the Mauretania.

I found a record of Timothy sailing to Ellis Island on 19 Feb 1919 on the Aquitania, presumably this was when the ship was taking troops back home.

If you have anything on the Mauretania, I'd be really grateful.

Bridget
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Re: Rimmers aboard Mauretania and Aquitania
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 27 June 09 15:54 UTC (UK) »

Just seen that FMP now has Crew lists in its records, but no help to you unfortunately as they are from 1861 - 1913  Cry Cry

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