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alllegs
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Hi,
I am currently researchign the family tree of a colleague and have come across some wealthy ancestors (compared to all my ag labs anyway!). I'm assuming a will would be a good find but I don't know where to start looking.
These are the details of the possible wills I'd like to uncover.
William Norman was born in St Dunstan, London in 1784, by the 1851 census he was a retired wine merchant and fund holder.
His son, also Wlliam Norman, born 1818, St Dunstan, London was a fund holder.
John Bannister, born Montford Hants in 1807 was a annutiant.
His daughter Mary Bertha Skinner (nee Bannister), born 1853 in Westminster, was an annutiant.
Her hubby, Harland Skinner, born 1856 in Peckham, was a fruiter in 1891 and by 1901 living on his own means
John Gingell, born 1810 in Epping was a Farmer of 200 acres employing 7 men and 4 boys and a baptist minister.
His son Frederick Gingell, born 1865, Loughton, Essex was a Dairy Farm manager.
Charles Arthur Lowndes, born 1853 in Sandbach was a cashier and accountant by 1901.
Any ideas would be greatfully received
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams
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bearkat
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The best place to start would be the PCC wills 1384 -1858 at the National Archives
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/wills.asp?WT.hp=Wills
Wills cost £3.50 to download.
If you don't have any joy there, then try the county records offices.
Hampshire Records Office can be searched:
http://calm.hants.gov.uk/DServe/
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Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN Nott/Derbs - SLACK Hert - BARNES L'pool- PLUMBE
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alllegs
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Thank you BearKat,
I'll have a look
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams
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alllegs
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Ohhh have found 1 early one on the national archives website for Daniel Gingell, father and grandfather of John and Frederick Gingell - very exciting!
Will check the other sites now
Thanks again
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams
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alllegs
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Wow, I'd not found that as yet.
Thank you Old Rowley
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams
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stonechat
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Also if it was pre 1858, it could be at the London Metropolitan Archives
Look at 'London Signatures' on their website here
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Douglas, Varnden, Joy(i)ce Surrey, Clarke Northants/Hunts, Pullen Worcs/Herefords, Holmes Birmingham/USA/Canada/Australia, Jackson Cheshire/Yorkshire, Lomas Cheshire, Lee Yorkshire, Cocks Lancashire, Leah Cheshire, Cook Yorkshire, Catlow Lancashire NOTE I have moved my website to http://www.cotswan.com
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stonechat
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Also for pre 1858 in Cheshire look here
http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/Wills/
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Douglas, Varnden, Joy(i)ce Surrey, Clarke Northants/Hunts, Pullen Worcs/Herefords, Holmes Birmingham/USA/Canada/Australia, Jackson Cheshire/Yorkshire, Lomas Cheshire, Lee Yorkshire, Cocks Lancashire, Leah Cheshire, Cook Yorkshire, Catlow Lancashire NOTE I have moved my website to http://www.cotswan.com
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alllegs
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Ta muchly Stonechat, will save them for the weekend as have a manic week at work - Ofsted - argh!
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams
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behindthefrogs
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You also need to be aware that wills of people who owned property spread over but only in the north of England were proved by the Archbishops Court at York.
Wills which were proved more locally were originally in the County Record Office of the church where the bishop or archdeacon had his church. Although some have been moved to a more appropriate local record office. The real problem is that some 10% of parishes were before about 1836 "peculiars" and did not always report to the obvious church dignitary. You thus need to check the history of the parish in which your ancestor lived.
Your local library will probably have a copy of The Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers. The coloured maps in this give a clear indication of where wills are likely to be found even though the Atlas doesn't provide this information directly.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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stonechat
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I have a small inexpensive booklet that gives the exact details - If I find it I will post it here However there are some online indexes which are what we have to go on most of the time
Bob
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Douglas, Varnden, Joy(i)ce Surrey, Clarke Northants/Hunts, Pullen Worcs/Herefords, Holmes Birmingham/USA/Canada/Australia, Jackson Cheshire/Yorkshire, Lomas Cheshire, Lee Yorkshire, Cocks Lancashire, Leah Cheshire, Cook Yorkshire, Catlow Lancashire NOTE I have moved my website to http://www.cotswan.com
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alllegs
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Thank you David and Bob
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukDUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood,Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson WL-Williams
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