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Aussie_trekkie
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St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« on: Sunday 28 June 09 16:00 BST (UK) »

My GGgrandparents were married in this Church 20/April/1875. Ihave a copy of the civil marriage but I am trying to find the church records. I have been told they they may have information as to the parents and the address in Ireland where the groom was a parishioner. Can anyone help
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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 June 09 17:25 BST (UK) »

Hi

If you have a copy of the marriage cert which shows their respective fathers names and occupations and names of witnesses - that is all that is available

Marriage certs do not show whereabouts either of the people were born
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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 June 09 17:40 BST (UK) »


Patrick Neill was very helpful to me looking up an RC marriage .... but it didn't give any extra information in the parish records ... only the names of the bride and groom in Latin and date etc ....  Smiley but you may like to look them up yourself ! Though it doesn't seem like he has St Silas ....  Undecided

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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 15:45 BST (UK) »

Hi

I checked several sites which list Liverpool churches as I hadn't come across a St Silas RC church and sure enough they only list St Silas C of E.

Maybe the cert you have is not written well and or maybe the RC was not clear?

Anyway,the following site (ppv but very reasonable cost and very good service) says it has marriage records of all the Liverpool RC churches and a name index.

http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/

Just click on RC marriages

Some RC records do list extra information but many do not.

Hope this helps

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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 17:11 BST (UK) »

Thank you for this .it looks very interesting. I read that St Silas was bombed in the war but the records had been removed so I am trying to find where they may have ended up.
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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 17:30 BST (UK) »

There were two CofE churches in Liverpool called St Silas.  One was in Pembroke Place near London Road.  Its marriage registers are at Lpool RO, ref 283 SIL/3, microfilmed, listed as 1843-1944.
The other was in High Park St, Toxteth Park.  Registers 1865-1958 also at Lpool RO, ref 283 SLS /3...
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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 July 09 16:36 BST (UK) »

Just re read the civil marriage cert and it said Marriage solemnized at St Silas Church in the Parish of Liverpool in the county of Lancaster according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church . So now I don't know what religion Huh
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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 July 09 17:09 BST (UK) »

The Church of England is the Established Church; it is likely to be the one in Pembroke Place rather than High Park Street, though both were CofE.
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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 July 09 18:02 BST (UK) »

Thank you for that . Do you know how I could access the records by any chance . Its a bit of a mystery . You see my GGF returned to Ireland in 1882 with his wife and 3 children , The family were brought up RC. His wife's parents were married in Liverpool too and the marriage certs says Catholic rites.  Was it usual for mixed marriage to take place in Church of Engalnd churches or could this be an error by the the civil registar.
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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 July 09 23:11 BST (UK) »

Hi

Quite a large proportion of marriages of people from other denominations, mixed or otherwise, at one stagfe took place in the Established Church, for historical reasons, including restrictive rules for some denominations, cost, etc.

This is a bit later than I've usually seen, but it's quite possible.  Many went on to have children baptised in their own denomination including RC.

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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 July 09 23:16 BST (UK) »

Hi Again

Have you tried Liverpool Recored Office for the register.  According to "Finding Folk", (Lancahsire Record Office, Preston), the original was deposited there.  If you have an actual date, you could try emailing them to see if they'll copy for you.

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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 04 July 09 07:39 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the suggestion I have emailed the records office ,hopefully they will reply
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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 04 July 09 19:32 BST (UK) »

Hi

Good luck!

Let us know how you get on!

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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 19 July 09 11:10 BST (UK) »

Hi All
I had a reply from the  Liverpool Record Office and they cannot find the record
but I have a marriage cert from BMD and it says St Silas. So I am at a loss as to where to go now.
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Re: St Silas RC Church Liverpool
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 19 July 09 12:05 BST (UK) »

Hi

It's a bit of a mystery, but it looks as if it will be St Silas of the Established Church and unlikely to give extra information.

You say though, that you're looking to find where they came from in Ireland.

Have you tried looking at:

Records for the area in Ireland to which they went.  Many people returned to the same area.

Census for 1911 and 1901 in the area they went to in Ireland, for their family and others of the same name.  Much of 1911 is now on line, although, apparently, entries written in Ireland are not.

Witnesses on marriages  in England on as many censuses as possible over here, to see if they ghive an area in Ireland, especially people of the same occupation if there is one

The same for people of the same name in England.


All a bit long winded, but that seems to be the way with Ireland!

Good hunting! 
 Smiley
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