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paulmh
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« on: Monday 29 June 09 11:18 UTC (UK) »

I wasn't really sure where to put this so sorry if its in wrong place. A am doing some research for my gf's family tree - named Wooler.

I am seraching for her gt grandfather named Harry Douglas Wooler (born in West Ham area), he married Beatrice Stobler, I know in 1909 they got married and later that year had a son of the same name.

They had a further three children with the latter (Mary A Wooler in 1914); I know that Harry senior died at sea but would now like to search for that information but I don't know how to go about it.

Any advice would be great.
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Re: Deaths at Sea
« Reply #1 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:31 UTC (UK) »

do you know if he died in a marine accident or a in a naval accident?
do you know when he died?
maybe the maritime museum in Greenwich will be able to help

trying to help but havent really
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Re: Deaths at Sea
« Reply #2 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:32 UTC (UK) »

I had a distant relative who "supposedly" died at sea. I was advised to research the main registrars office
nearest to the coast where he died. However, there were no records there, or indeed anywhere else of his
death, even though I had a date for his death, which had been passed on through the family. His wife had
a son which "could" have been his, but she re-married after her husbands "death" and the son already had
the new husbands surname, although he had been born some years previously!!!
We assume from this that she'd had an affair, and her husband conveniently "died at sea" to leave her free
to marry the father of her child. Apparently this did happen occasionally, it was cheaper and more acceptable
than the stigma of divorce.
Maybe another option to explore!!! Wink
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:36 UTC (UK) »

I had a distant relative who "supposedly" died at sea. I was advised to research the main registrars office
nearest to the coast where he died. However, there were no records there, or indeed anywhere else of his
death, even though I had a date for his death, which had been passed on through the family. His wife had
a son which "could" have been his, but she re-married after her husbands "death" and the son already had
the new husbands surname, although he had been born some years previously!!!
We assume from this that she'd had an affair, and her husband conveniently "died at sea" to leave her free
to marry the father of her child. Apparently this did happen occasionally, it was cheaper and more acceptable
than the stigma of divorce.
Maybe another option to explore!!! Wink


Well, there family storey goes is that Harry and Beatrice had at least four children, Harry died at sea (persumably after 1914 when May was born) and Beatrice later had another child called Ethel with someone else.

However the four children I have found so far were all sent for adoption because Beatrice couldn't provide for them. Sadly I have no dates for Harry's death and in the 1911 census he isn't in the house although Beatrice is listed as married (aged 21 - could be a clue as to Harry's age), but without information on Harry I'm a little stuck at the moment.
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Re: Deaths at Sea
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:38 UTC (UK) »

do you know if he died in a marine accident or a in a naval accident?
do you know when he died?
maybe the maritime museum in Greenwich will be able to help

trying to help but havent really
Toni


Sadly Toni I have no idea as to what he was doing at sea, he may have been a simple fisherman (i dunno), all I really have is a name and woulkd say he died somewhere between 1914 and 1920.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:48 UTC (UK) »

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission has a death for Harry Douglas Wooler, leading seaman, age 37, 14/04/1916

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 29 June 09 11:50 UTC (UK) »

Sorry, go to this link:

www.cwcg.org/search

Put in his name and WW1 and the details will come up.

Jen
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N.E.Scotland: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 29 June 09 13:04 UTC (UK) »

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission has a death for Harry Douglas Wooler, leading seaman, age 37, 14/04/1916

Jen

Its definatly him, thank you very much. It has told me so much, and much more than I expected.
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 29 June 09 13:29 UTC (UK) »

Very glad to have helped, Paul. It's almost always my first port of call for deaths of youngish men during those years and as you say, it can give so much more information that you are expecting.  Smiley

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NR Yorks: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
Westmorland: Dickenson, Jackson Ewbank Waller
Staffs: White Knight
Surrey: Knight
Durham: Smith
Hants: Williams Grose Lush Venson
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« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 June 09 13:53 UTC (UK) »

I knew that he was married to Beattrice but had no idea as to when or where he was born nor did I know whom is father was.
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