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Tantan
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Thomas NEATE marriage 1787
« on: Tuesday 30 June 09 07:33 UTC (UK) »

Please does anyone have access to Broad Hinton PRs and could look up for me the marriage of Thomas Neate to Elizabeth Hughes, which according to the IGI took place on 1/2/1787? What I am hoping to find is where Thomas Neate came from and even better who his father was? Any help much appreciated.
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Tantan
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trish1120
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Re: Thomas Neate marriage 1787
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 08:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tantan,

That is a submitted record so should be treated with caution.
Which of the 5 children listed on the record are you descended from?

Cheers,
Trish
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Re: Thomas Neate marriage 1787
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 08:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trish
   Yes I realise that some of these IGI submissions are unreliable, but it's the only evidence I have of Thomas Neate other than an Indenture bearing his name when he leased a farm in 1794. I suspect that he is a son of William Neate and Sarah ( nee Bathe), but if so his baptism record is not on the IGI with his siblings. I am not related to them but am researching the Manor Farm which Thomas was leasing at that time.
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Re: Thomas Neate marriage 1787
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 11:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tantan,
Your research sounds fascinating. Hopefully someone will have access to parish records for you.

Cheers,
trish
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Re: Thomas NEATE marriage 1787
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 12:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tantan,

There is a marriage licence bond

30 Jan 1787 Thomas NEATE 21 Bachelor of Wroughton and Elizabeth HUGHES 21 spinter of Broad Hinton. Bondsman Anthony BATHE of Wroughton.

Unfortunately this is no guarantee he was born in Wroughton only that he was a resident of Wroughton at the time of marriage. Interesting you think mother may be Sarah BATHE  Grin

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Thomas NEATE marriage 1787
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trish and Kris
  Many thanks for all your helpful comments. It's useful to know about the marriage bond. If my suspicions are correct Thomas was connected with the family of William Neate and his wife Sarah (nee Bathe) who were the second generation of Neates to live at "my" farm. I had thought he was a son but there doesn't appear to be room for him in William & Sarah's family if the dates on the IGI are correct ( shall have to check the PRs I guess) - maybe he was using a second name and not the one listed in the records? Anthony the Bondsman could be his brother, or maybe a cousin??
  I know about William & Sarah because I have an Indenture where they are named in a will by her father Anthony Bathe. None of them actually lived in Wroughton, but it was in Wroughton Parish.
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Tantan
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Re: Thomas NEATE marriage 1787
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 20:32 UTC (UK) »

Good luck Tantan,

I have to point out the Bondsman is Anthony BATHE not NEATE  Wink

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Thomas NEATE marriage 1787
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 21:07 UTC (UK) »

Yes thanks Kris, my mistake.
Tantan
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Re: Thomas NEATE marriage 1787
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 15:05 UTC (UK) »

HI Tantan,

Probably not much use, but - I grew up in BH, and still have family there.

I will have a look in a book I have that has lots of old pics in, and I can also take some pics if you like.

Best wishes
Paula
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Re: Thomas NEATE marriage 1787
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 15:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Paula
   Many thanks for your interest. I also came from that area and went to school with kids from BH. If you can find anything on the Neates it would be much appreciated. I'll bear in mind your offer to take pics, many thanks.
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Tantan
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Re: Thomas NEATE marriage 1787
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 05 August 09 10:29 UTC (UK) »


Hi,
The Thomas Neate you seek may be the following:
A Thomas Neate who was buried at Wroughton on 13.04.1799 aged 33 years.  I am not sure of his exact birth date or place but in the will of a Robert Neate (possibly this Thomas' father), who was buried in Wroughton in 1785 he mentions the following:
28th February 1785 Robert Neate of Salthrope in the county of Wilts Gentleman of this date (amongst other things) Gave as follows,
I give to my daughters Mary Neate, Jane Neate, Martha Neate and Elizabeth Neate, nine hundred pounds each of the money to be paid to them at their several respitive ages of twenty one years or days of marriages which shall first happen with lawful interest for the said legacies from the time of my decease to the time of payment thereof.  An his personal estate after payment of his debts and legacies he gave and bequeathed into his wife Mary Neate, Bryce Rumboll, Anthony Bathe and John Templer in trust for the sole use and benefit of his son Thomas, his exetors and administors and appointed his said wife, Bryce Rumboll, Anthony Bathe and John Templer guardians of his children during their respective minorities and made them executux and executors of his said will.
I don't have a full copy of this will but this Robert Neate married twice-first to his cousin Frances Neate at Lydiard Tregoze in 1758.  She is buried at Wroughton in 1772. Secondly he married  Mary Rumbol in Wroughton  in 1773 and she survived him being buried there in 1794.
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Sally
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Re: Thomas NEATE marriage 1787
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 05 August 09 16:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sally
  Many thanks for your help and interest. I shall explore this more thoroughly, you may well be correct.
Regards
Tantan
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