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trish1120
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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 10:41 UTC (UK) »

That would definitely be Benjamin, dyer/draper business likely Grin
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 11:31 UTC (UK) »

You did put Benjamin as the Father,it's their fault  Wink
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,


Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 11:41 UTC (UK) »

 Grin Thanks Hepburn for making me feel better!
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 11:44 UTC (UK) »

Freebmd has the death reg in 1843 Glanford Brigg of an Ann Elizabeth Cotsworth.

Might be worth following this up through 1841 Census/Baptisms (if available) if only to discount her from the search.

Kanskar
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trish1120
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 12:17 UTC (UK) »

Will do Kanskar Smiley
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trish1120
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 12:30 UTC (UK) »

Although totally not discounting the 1847 Ann Elizabeth HOLDSWORTH as my great grandmother I would like to explain my reasons for having doubt;

Death cert
Annie SHAW nee Holdsworth,age 89, no Mothers name given. I find this unusual as she was living with a daughter who would surely have known her grandmother, who if she was Mary Nettlem/Holdsworth died in 1894.
Time in New Zealand is 80yrs (arrival approx 1850) aged 9. This would make her born abt 1840.
Could she have arrived in NZ with other family members?

Illeg.Birth
There is a stillbirth reg. by David Holdsworth 1861, Mother Annie Holdsworth. If she was the one born 1847, she would have been only 14!

Marriage Cert to John SHAW 1869
Held at the house of Mrs Holdsworth. Does not say Mother as other certs I have. Annie of full age.

There are other reasons but will sort all my stuff tomorrow as I am sick with the flu Roll Eyes

Trish

PS though I would put up a photo of Annie which was beautifully restored from a book article by the Photo Board here Smiley Grin

INTERESTING sideline;
The British can claim Iris Murdoch (the writer) as having English Grandparents as well as Irish.
John and Annie Shaw were her grandparents Wink So David Holdsworth one of her great Grand Fathers.
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 12:47 UTC (UK) »

This is a dodgy entry.....London to Sydney 1857...Mr Holdsworth and 4 misses Holdsworth.
The only other entry I found (Holdsworth)is way off beam.
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stoke on trent. carson,wain,leese,shaw,key,scalley,mitchell,
,james,
nottingham,pollard,grice,
derbyshire,vallands,turton,howe.
new zealand,turton
canada,carson.
australia,mitchell,scalley,


Has anyone seen Henry Atcherson Carson,born Canada 1844?
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 12:52 UTC (UK) »

Yes Hepburn, I have seen that too. Maybe another Holdsworth and daughters plus hopefully my Great Grandmother.
Maybe a trip to State Library is in order. But as they would have been paying passengers maybe hard to find Roll Eyes

I think tomorrow I will post a link to this on Aust and NZ board as it is amazing what some of them can come up with.
Thanks,
Trish
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 14:43 UTC (UK) »

there's a burial in Selby Abbey 6/5/1829 of a Benjamin Holdsworth aged 55

He's a linen manufacturer in 1822 & 1829 directories

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Selby/
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 15:06 UTC (UK) »

Thank you Osprey Smiley
What a beautiiful Abbey. Lots of Briggs in Town too.

Cheers,
Trish
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 16:03 UTC (UK) »

couple more burials

Mary Holdsworth age 36 24/10/1839 in Goxhill All Saints

Benjamin Holdsworth age 4 22/9/1819 Selby Abbey

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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 01 July 09 20:26 UTC (UK) »

 Tongue Just to say I'll try to help tomorrow.
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday 02 July 09 04:20 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Lesanne Smiley

Think the only new things we have established so far is the death of Benjamin Holdsworth in 1829, aged 59, born c 1770, linen manufacturer. And possible siblings of David.

Trish
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« Reply #28 on: Friday 03 July 09 03:19 UTC (UK) »


David married twice;

Mary Eliza TORR (1803-1839)Married 29/1/1834 Goxhill,Lincs
Maria/Mary Eliza NETTLEM(1809-1894) Married 7/4/1840, Barton upon Humber, Lincs
 
He had 4 children from the first marriage;
David, 1834
Mary, 1836
John Torr, 1838
Ann Elizabeth, 1839
 
William,1841
James, 1842-1843
Eliza, 1844
James, 1845 (probably died 1845 also)
Ann Elizabeth, 1847 (Ama Eliz. on census entry 1851)


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*  Would David HOLDSWORTH have had TWO daughters named "Ann Elizabeth" ... especially if the earlier one (bc 1839) was still alive Huh

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« Reply #29 on: Friday 03 July 09 04:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lu,

That is what I am trying to establish as we cant find a conclusive death for the first one Huh Unless it is just under Ann or she has been mistranscribed as 3 instead of 13.
Coincidentally on another post someone has 3 daughters named Maria all on the same census entry:P

Trish
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