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lizdb
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Not sure what you mean - 'no' to what!
So - have you got the marriage cert for 1887? (6 yrs after he is with Jane and child John in 1881)
What did this baby, John's bith cert say about parents - father Emmanuel or John? Mothers maiden name? etc.
(And I am taking it from your later replies that the possible birth dates for Robert and Margaret of 1810 are a red herring, as there is no finding to suggest that?)
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wendy47
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No luck I'm afraid. Do you have any idea when Robert died? there is one death in Hull but it's just a guess and makes him 1801 born. Maybe Margaret remarried after Emmanuel was born.
Deaths Jun 1877 Forsyth Robert aged 76 Hull 9d 139
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VEAL, PRICE, STURGE, BELLET, DREW, TAYLOR Som/Glos COTTERELL, NAPPER, NASH, FLEETWOOD, HANDLEY, COLLINS Hereford NASH, TYLER Warks, Kent CROWE, REYNOLDS, BEARMAN Suflk/Essx/Middx Abraham CARLSON/CHARLSON Sweden/E Ldn COX Wilts STILES, DORTON Middx, Surrey "Fisher" HALLUM London? HANSTEY, MARSHALL Northumberland ELDRIDGE, ALDRIDGE, STILES, DORTON Ldn RAGLESS, NYE Sussex FEGAN, LOUGHLIN Down CLAYTON SWEENY Cork PROBABLE IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE TO BE PREFERRED TO IMPROBABLE POSSIBILITIES - ARISTOTLE
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lizdb
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Why do you think that this 81 yr old Elizabeth Forsyth, mother in law to Rose Ann Cooper (or possibly actually mother, as head of h/h is missing) is the same person as Margaret Forsyth nee Watson, mother of Emanuel?
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wendy47
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If if was Elizabeth then I have noticed her in several censuses. But it is a leap from Margaret to Elizabeth unless she was Margaret Elizabeth Watson.
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VEAL, PRICE, STURGE, BELLET, DREW, TAYLOR Som/Glos COTTERELL, NAPPER, NASH, FLEETWOOD, HANDLEY, COLLINS Hereford NASH, TYLER Warks, Kent CROWE, REYNOLDS, BEARMAN Suflk/Essx/Middx Abraham CARLSON/CHARLSON Sweden/E Ldn COX Wilts STILES, DORTON Middx, Surrey "Fisher" HALLUM London? HANSTEY, MARSHALL Northumberland ELDRIDGE, ALDRIDGE, STILES, DORTON Ldn RAGLESS, NYE Sussex FEGAN, LOUGHLIN Down CLAYTON SWEENY Cork PROBABLE IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE TO BE PREFERRED TO IMPROBABLE POSSIBILITIES - ARISTOTLE
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lizdb
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Yes Wendy it is Elizabeth!
There are several Forsyth families around who use the same range of names - Emmanuel John and Jane had a Rose Ann themselves (on 1891 census age 6) and if you remember right at the beginning I found a William and ELizabeth with son Emmanuel. I have also seen some Margaret Forsyths in my travels around the censuses (indeed Emmanuel John and Jane A had one of those too, age 1 in 1891)
But nothing is tying up, so there is a trick missed somewhere, or a wrong assumption made, or something.
I still havent found Emmanuel John and Jane A Hasselwood's marriage. Normsy said it was 1887, but they are already together in 1881 with baby John whose birth cert Normsy has. Other children follow as 1891 showed (James then 9, Rose Ann 6, Ethel 2 and Margaret 1)
So - if they didnt marry till 1887, why not? Or did they marry earlier? Either way I can see marriage Have you got the marriage cert Normsy? If so what is the date? are they both spinster/bachelellor? any previous names? what are fathers names and occupations? etc etc
There seem to be Forsyths from Cumberland with some familiar names moving down to Yorkshoire, cant remember which census I picked that up from now, I 've looked at so many! So it is certainly possible that Emmanuels parents, who we have evidence from the birth cert are Robert and Margaret, may have come down from even further, say, Scotland and maybe only for Emmanuel's birth? visiting rellies when it all happened? who knows!
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wendy47
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Well we've made some progress.
What a conundrum!!
Wendy
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VEAL, PRICE, STURGE, BELLET, DREW, TAYLOR Som/Glos COTTERELL, NAPPER, NASH, FLEETWOOD, HANDLEY, COLLINS Hereford NASH, TYLER Warks, Kent CROWE, REYNOLDS, BEARMAN Suflk/Essx/Middx Abraham CARLSON/CHARLSON Sweden/E Ldn COX Wilts STILES, DORTON Middx, Surrey "Fisher" HALLUM London? HANSTEY, MARSHALL Northumberland ELDRIDGE, ALDRIDGE, STILES, DORTON Ldn RAGLESS, NYE Sussex FEGAN, LOUGHLIN Down CLAYTON SWEENY Cork PROBABLE IMPOSSIBILITIES ARE TO BE PREFERRED TO IMPROBABLE POSSIBILITIES - ARISTOTLE
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