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bendywendy
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FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« on: Tuesday 30 June 09 09:44 UTC (UK) »

Has anyone information on Frances M Tweddall or Tweddell  married Thomas W Houfe Dec Q 1925 Thirsk.
Only possible birth I can find is Frances Mary Tweddell Mar Q 1900 Teesdale.
Any confirmation or other and any census for her family would be appreciated.

The mother of Ths W Houfe born Auckland, Mar Q 1904 was Eliza Tweddall / Tweddell born Sep Q 1875 Auckland, Durham. Father Arthur Thomas Houfe, Huntington, York and Riccall. I have birth and census details for parents but not for Ths W Houfe for 1911 and family.

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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 10:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Bendywendy

The only candidate for the girl whose birth you found that I can see in the 1901 census is
(and a free search of the 1911 census index suggests that she's indeed Frances Mary, now living in Thirsk district)

1901
RG13/4655 11 14
Cockfield, Durham (Teesdale registration district)
2 rooms occupied

John T Tweddall, head, 27, Contractors Cartman, b. Durham Bishop Auckland
Jane H, wife, 27, b. Yorks Sowerby
Francess, dau, 1, b. Cockfield 
Isaac S, father, mar, 58, Stone Mason, b. Yorkshire Manfield

These John T and Isaac look very much like the family we suspected to be Eliza's family on your other thread.

I reckon you'd better get hold of Frances' marriage cert to check if she's the same person.

The 1911 census details are pay per view for everyone but the search is free:
www.1911census.co.uk 
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 10:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tati
Once again many thanks. I did suspect that Ths Houfe and E Twiddall /ell were cousins.  Grin
It is going to be a headache sorting out the 'all from the 'ell families Huh
Bendywendy
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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 12:07 UTC (UK) »

I am linking together these posts:-

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=389819.msg2613366#msg2613366


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,389820.0.html
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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 00:28 UTC (UK) »

Just a thought..have you tried the spelling Tweddle? My great aunt's married name! Smiley
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 11:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Yorkie55
I will have a go with your spelling and see what comes up, just busy this week due to little granddaughter here on hols.
Are you related to Houfe by the way??
Will post anything I find on here.
Thanks
Bendywendy
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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 August 09 16:40 UTC (UK) »

Sorry, no I'm not related to the Houfe as far as I know.
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 September 09 13:58 UTC (UK) »

hi to all tweddels

hi i have a hannah tweddle she married a john pearson in cumberland
they had 2 sons
joseph pearson he died young
william pearson born in 1840/41 dec
john died in 1841 hannah moved to allendale to her mothers we can not fine out any info on her from then on
i am looking for tweddle family members
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 September 09 18:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi Anthony
The possibility is that Hannah remarried before the 1851 census. Have you looked for a marriage with her married surname not her maiden surname??? Also try and find her two sons and her mother on the 1851 census, see where that takes you. Could be possible that she moved out of the area, have you tried with all three of them elsewhere on 1851 census??? I have found that some of my Hall Clan are missing on the 1851 census for certain parts of Norfolk, but I know they were there due to baptisms and marriages of family members around same time.
Just getting my dau ready for Uni on Saturday, will have a look for you after then.
Regards
Bendywendy
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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 September 09 10:21 UTC (UK) »

hi
we only kown that she married in 1838 to  john pearson
in 1851 census she is living with her mother in allendale
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 September 09 10:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi again
Will see what I can find after tomorrow for you, will come back to you if I need more info to work on.
Regards
Bendywendy
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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 September 09 18:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Anthony
Can you provide details of parents for Hannah Tweddle??
How sure are you of the spelling of Tweddle??  Could it have been Twedale/Tweddal etc.??
Have you got Baptisms/DOB for Joseph & William??
Where were they born??
Any marriage details for William Pearson or Census details?? Have you followed him through all the census's, could his mother Hannah, have ended up living with him, especially after her mother died??
Where did John Pearson die??? Do you know what his occupation was???
With SO MANY Tweddle and Pearson it is difficult to find info without some other basic info to work alongside with.
As you will see from my different spellings of Tweddall/ell it is difficult to trace the surname with total accuracy when it could have been mis-spelt.
Look forward to your reply.
Bendywendy

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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 September 09 10:43 UTC (UK) »

hi
not sure of spelling of tweddle
joseph pearson was born in 1834/35 at brough hill that is were john pearson lived and were joseph died in 1834/35
william was born in oldham lancashire in 1840/41 (dec)
do not know of hannahs mother/father 
john and hannah married in 1833/34 in cumbria/cumberland
hannah was born in 1816 in cumbria/ cumberland
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #13 on: Monday 21 September 09 18:42 UTC (UK) »

hi
i have been looking in my files hannah tweddell/ tweddle
born in 1816 allendale northumberland
this may be her family
jacob tweddell 50 born in 1791 in northumberland
ann tweddell 50 born in 1791 in northumberland
children of above
thomas tweddell  20 born in 1821 in northumberland
elizabeth tweddell 15 born in 1820 in northumberland
charlot tweddell 5 born in 1836 in  northumberland
william pearson born in oldham 1m old in 1841 on census it has him born in northumberland
hannah pearson 25

haltwisle district 18

1891 census
ann pearson  50 widow            head   
hannah pearson 75 widow  mother in  law at harsley wood cottages number 4
not to sure of this
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Re: FRANCES M TWEDDALL/TWEDDELL Lookups Birth & Census
« Reply #14 on: Monday 21 September 09 19:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Anthony
Just picked up your messages.

Have you got any birth or marriage or death certificates for any of these?? If Hannah Tweddle is your Great Grandmother etc., it would be worthwhile obtaining her marriage certificate to see if it has her fathers name on and details of her husband. Again the death certificate of her husband would give  his cause of death and probably give you his home address and his wife's details, possibly his occupation. Also the birth certificate for William would be helpful when it can be established where he was born.

Remember many many years ago folk could not read or write, so the downside to this illiteracy is that the spelling of names could not be checked. Ages, well again folk did not celebrate birthdays, it was a task just getting by from year to year, usually marked by the seasons of each year Winter, Spring, Summer & Autumn, so age did not matter to them. Born at or Birth Place are different to Baptised at. Folk forgot simple details due to their difficult lives. Sad

1891 cen info you have posted, this could be your Hannah Pearson nee Tweddle and Head could be her daughter in law Ann also a widow.
Ann Pearson born c 1840-41. She could be Widow of one of Hannah's sons possibly William. If this is your Hannah Pearson  then she did not remarry, unless after 1891 cen aged 75 + Huh., also she was born 1816 and 75 yrs on 1891 cen then these two do add up together.
You mentioned before of Hannah on 1851 cen with her mother, what was her name and who else was listed and where??.
Will look for a marriage of William Pearson to Ann Huh

I will make a start and see what I can find for you now there is a bit more info to go on.

Bendywendy
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HALL     REEPHAM, HACKFORD, GUESTWICK, NFK
HALL     YORK, HOLME ON SPALDING MOOR, E. YKS
HALL     BELBY, Nr HOWDEN, E. YKS
HOUFE   YORK, RICCALL, THIRSK, DURHAM, LANCASHIRE
FEATHERSTONE     KNEDLINGTON, GILBERDYKE, E. YKS
CLAYTON   PATRINGTON, KEYINGHAM, STADDLETHORPE, E. YKS
CAWOOD   RAWCLIFFE, STADDLETHORPE
WALKER     HADDELSEY, EASTRINGTON, SHIPTONTHORPE, E. YKS
BEAN         STILLINGFLEET, ULLESKELF, KIRKBY WHARFE, YKS
TAYLES     LINCS.
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