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CaroleW
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Hi
It's always helpful if you could post full details of any census you find your ancestors on as it helps with earlier/later searches
This family were living in Stalybridge Cheshire in 1881
William Willoughby Leigh 68 b Blackrod labourer in print works
Ann 59 b Blackrod
John William 23 son b Heyrod
Charles Henry 19 g/son b Heyrod
Julia Ann 19 dtr b Stalybridge
RG11 Piece 4063 Folio 104 Page 33
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CaroleW
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I can't find him on the 1871 but this is his grandparents marriage which we can use to check earlier censuses
Marriages September qtr 1840
Leigh William Willoughby Chorley 21 187
PILKINGTON Ann Chorley 21 187
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CaroleW
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Found them in 1871 in Stalybridge indexed as Lee. All children from Mary Jane onwards are shown as b Heywood Heyrod Lancs
William Willoughby Lee 59 b Blackrod
Ann 51 b Blackrod
Josh 20 b Gorton
Mary Jane 18
John William 14
Elizabeth 12
Julia Ann 8
Charles Henry 9 shown as son
RG10 Piece 4092 Folio 34 Page 9
The ages of the children above preclude them being the parent of Charles so I need to go back further to see if there are any other older children
The fact that he is with grandparents on 2 censuses could possibly mean he was the illegitimate son of one of the daughters
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CaroleW
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Sorry - meant to add above that his grandparents marriage cert will not help in finding Charles parentage
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CaroleW
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1861 for Ashton under Lyne
William Willougby Leigh 49 b Ashton
Ann 42 b Ashton
Ann M 17 b Salford
William 13 b Ulnes Walton
Joseph 10 b Gorton
Mary J 7 b Heyrod
John William 5 ditto
Elizabeth 2 ditto
RG9 Piece 3000 Folio 55 Page 9
Daughter Ann looks a likely candidate
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CaroleW
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Hi Beryl
I lost my internet connection last night just as I was trying to find them on the 1851 census.
Re: 1871 details - sorry - I mis-read the image and it is Heyrod and not Heywood so I have amended my post above
Birthplaces can change - it depends who gave the info to the enumerator and how well they knew the person. As they were living in Ashton at that time - assumptions may have been made
I'll see if I can find them in 1851
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CaroleW
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Parts of the 1851 census were water damaged during storage but some have been restored. This entry is from the unfilmed 1851 - no ages shown
http://www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk/1851search.htm
12 Nelson Street Gorton
LEIGH William Wil (presumably Willoughby)
Ann
Ellen
Ann M
Matthew
Joseph
3A/125/5
So we have another contender for mum of Charles - daughter Ellen
I am a bit puzzled as to where son William is in 1851 - he is 13 in 1861
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CaroleW
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1841 for Bolton Le Moors - ages in 1841 from 16yrs onwards were rounded down to the nearest 5yrs
Hollands Cottages
William Leigh 25 collier
Ann 20
Ellen 8mths
HO107 Piece 537/2 Folio 41 Page 15
At the same address - Ann's parents I reckon
Richard Pilkington 55 farmer
Ann 55
Elias 20
Mary 15
Joseph 15
John 11
All b Lancs
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CaroleW
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Hi Beryl
Unfortunately - it doesn't tell us who Charles mother was - Ellen or Ann
I am 100% convinced he was illegitimate
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