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HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
« on: Friday 01 September 06 12:46 UTC (UK) »
I have a Thomas ? Holes (I think this is the 1st name) m to Mary.
In the 1851 census Mary is there with her children,
George b c 1843 Bedfordshire
William b 1846 Luton Bedfordshire

Thomas may have been b in Toddington, Bedfordshire

Help, please.
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Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 September 06 12:55 UTC (UK) »
struggling .... can you give the 1851 full reference please ?

sure its not HOLMES ?
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Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 September 06 13:06 UTC (UK) »
No - definitely Holes.
This is what I have (stupidly have written a very cryptic message).
1851:
re Mary the mother -
Listed as 24 (673) in 1851 census
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Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 September 06 13:12 UTC (UK) »
LOL - very cryptic .... well 673 doesnt seem to be a PIECE num, so maybe 24 is her age - not showing.. up tho ... yet - BUT SEE BELOW

The George and William I can find arent those DoBs ...

hmmm
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Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 September 06 13:18 UTC (UK) »
The only Mary Holes explicitly shown with that spelling ..

HO107/1757 Folio 757 Page 34 - Luton, Beds

'New Town'

 
George Holes 24  Head Farm Lab Herts
Mary Ann Holes 25  Wife Herts
Emily Holes 2  Luton

Alice Powell 30  Lodger
Emily Powell 2  do
Mary Powell 5  do
Thomas Powell 32 do 
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Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 September 06 13:29 UTC (UK) »
heres the other reference I made -

HO107/1757 Folio 673 Page 38 - Luton


This is complicated and poorly written !
 

Ann Hawkins 28  Head (not ~~~ home) Lace Maker Herts
Thomas Hawkins 13 
Sarah Hawkins 11 
Emma Hawkins 15 
Frederick Hawkins 9 
John Hawkins 7 

George Holes 5  'son of am'  - born Herts, Hitchin Union [workhouse]
Mary Halles (sic) 24  'sister of ...' born Herts ~~~~
William Holes son born Beds, Luton Union [workhouse]
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 September 06 13:32 UTC (UK) »
all of which doesnt reveal owt in 1841 !
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Re: Holes family - 1841 census lookup pls
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 September 06 14:25 UTC (UK) »
It's this one - my cousin said something about them being in a workhouse.... Can you see that one any better?

George Holes 5  'son of am'  - born Herts, Hitchin Union [workhouse]
Mary Halles (sic) 24  'sister of ...' born Herts ~~~~
William Holes son born Beds, Luton Union [workhouse]
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 September 06 14:27 UTC (UK) »
 Roll Eyes
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Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
« Reply #9 on: Friday 01 September 06 15:35 UTC (UK) »
Thank you.  Smiley
It looks as if Mary might have been the sister then and not the mother.....
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Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 11 July 09 17:37 UTC (UK) »
Mary was William's mother; Ann was George's mother.  Both women were (I believe) daughters of William Holes, and came from Offley; and neither Ann nor Mary appear to have been married when they gave birth (hence the Hitchin/Luton Union workhouse references).
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Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 11 July 09 18:04 UTC (UK) »
Thanks - are you related?
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Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 11 July 09 18:21 UTC (UK) »
(Through Ann)
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Re: HOLES Family - 1841 Census Lookup Pls
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 11 July 09 18:23 UTC (UK) »
We would be distantly related then. William Holes was my ggggsomething gfather. Do you have any more info?
Shall I PM you with an email address?
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