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Topic: Matty in Deerhurst and Harris in Apperly (Read 477 times)
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pedroparker
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Hi,
Can anyone out there offer any info on these people before 1841?
Here's what i have:
My ggg grandfather was William Matty we have all the census for him apart from 1861, where we cannot find him. Our earliest census, 1841 has him as follows:
1841
Deerhurst, Gloucestershire
Joseph Matty, 40, ag lab b.gloucestershire
Sarah Matty. 35, not born in county
Charles Matty, 12, b.glouc
Samuel Matty, 10, b."
Maria Matty, 11, b."
George Matty, 6, b."
William Matty, 8months, b."
What was Sarah's maiden name? and can the parents and grandparents of Joseph be traced?
As for the Harris connection;
William Matty's 1st marriage was to Caroline Harris in Tewksbury 1875 (There is a spelling mistake and they are down as Mattey on the marriage cert)
We believe she was b,1836/37 and in gloucestershire.
Her's what i have for Caroline Harris:
1881 Deerhurst Glouc
Joseph Matty, 81, ag lab, deerhurst glouc
William Matty, 40, ag lab, "
Caroline Matty, 44, deerhurst glouc
Frederick Matty, 4, "
George Matty, 3, "
1871 St Mary's Cheltenham
Caroline Harris, 34, servant cook, apperly glouc
1861 362 High st St Mary's Cheltenham
Caroline Harris, 25, servant, apperly glouc
1851 (? 1. freeling st? islington? All Saints,?) can't quite make out the place. Would like to know if this is the correct census everything ties up, it's just the area she is in.
Caroline Harris, 15, servant, glouc
1841sweet briar? st, Hamlet of Kingsholm St Mary's, Glouc
(Mary?) Harris, 40, b.glouc
Caroline Harris, 5, "
I would like to find out more on these people and their relatives before them, if anyone could help me do so it would be fantastic!
Thanks
pedro
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trish1120
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My Amazing Mother 1912-1982
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There is this marriage;
Joseph MATTY or MATTEY
Sarah BARNES
27 July 1829, Hempstead, Gloustershire
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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Arranroots
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Hi Pedro
Have you looked here yet?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wrag44/deerhurst/deerhurst.htm
Kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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pedroparker
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Thanks Trish
That's brilliant! 
Do you know if Hempstead a place or a parish?
pedro
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pedroparker
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Hi Arranroots
Thats fantastic!
had no idea this was availabe, I will enjoy looking through, hopefully I will find something.
Much appreciated
pedro
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Arranroots
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You're welcome - good luck with that.
Hempstead is a parish, by the way - it's always useful to search for Genuki+parish name if you want the low-down on a place:
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Hempsted/Gaz1868.html
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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pedroparker
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Thanks again Arranroots
you've been very helpful, i'm new to searching for anything before the census's so any advice is brill.
pedro
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trish1120
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Arent you lucky  Arranroots is a gem of info.
I found baptisms for the children of Joseph and Sarah on the IGI at familysearch but was thrown by one having Mothers name as Ann, not Sarah.
It looks like your Joseph married twice to maybe sisters
Ann BARNES
Joseph MATTEY
10 October 1825, Deerhurst, Gloust
Death from site you were given;
Ann MATTY, aged 24, 26 September 1828, Deerhurst
He then probably married Sarah the next year.
Trish
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All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND) |
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pedroparker
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very lucky, and even more lucky to have you on the case to Trish
I was filtering through the Deerhurst records Arranroots just gave me and just found the Ann Barnes you mentioned, which puzzled me too.
It would be Charles who had the mother called Ann Barnes? as he is the oldest one i know off.
Thanks Trish
pedro
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gene-genie
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IGI
Joseph Matty ch 28 Dec 1800 Deerhurst Father: Wm Mother: Alice
William Matty married Alice Hobbs 26 July 1797 Eckington Worcs must be Holy Trinity
Joseph Matty married Sarah BARNES 27 July 1827 Hampstead GLS
Could be Sarah?:
Sarah BARNES b.June 10 1801 ch 24 Oct 1801 St Paul Weslyan Shepton Mallet Somerset.
Father: John Mother Sarah Clothier? marriage Ditcheat Som. 1804
FreeBMD
Marriages:
Maria MATTY June Q 1851 Tewkesbury ref 11 607
" " June Q 1867 Tewkesbury ref 6a 732
George MATTY Dec Q 1862 Bristol 6a 26
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BRISTOL & GLS:
DENNING - RIDDLE-DENNING. & Glam TANNER-DENNING, MORGAN, THOMAS, RICE-ADAMS, RITCHINGS.
DEV:18thC RICE, Mary, ADAMS, CLARKE,STENTAFORD. MICHLEMORE.
HANTS: RICE-ADAMS, RICE-DEVEREUX-ADAMS (S'hampton), PIPER. (Crawley)
All GLS: TOVEY, GLS/GLAM/BRKS. WESLEY/WASLEY, GLS/GLAM. MARSHALL Alstone, PEARSON, GREEN, JAYNES COOMBES, TOMBS.
LANCS: DUNN, Manc. BROWN Salford
CHS: BROMILEY
SOM: BALCH.
WLS: MORRIS, MGY/DEN, WMS, GRIFFITHS,
WTS/Lon: SKUSE
BRKS/Lon: CHURCH, WAKEFIELD
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pedroparker
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Thanks again for the pm gene-genie
fantastic!
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trish1120
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Yes Pedro it was Charles.
You are so lucky to go back so far in such a short time
Trish
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Arranroots
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Thanks again for the pm gene-genie
fantastic!
Unless you are passing email addresses or info relating to living people it's best not to use PMs
1) it can cause duplication - we don't know what's been sent
2) there is no permanent record, which can be useful if your computer crashes
Now we're all left wondering whether to bother with anything else, or whether it's been done - see the dilemma?
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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pedroparker
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Hi, i do see your dilemma Arranroots, I recieved burial information
pedro
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