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Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« on: Thursday 02 July 09 06:43 UTC (UK) »
I am looking for information regarding Thomas Bawden Bryar b 1831 Marazion Cornwell. Married Mary A Roberts Burgess ,year Unk .
Children Elizabeth born 1852, died 1852, Elizabeth Ann b1853 , Susan b1856 all born Breage and Ester b 1857 Liskeard Cornwell.
They came out to Australia when I am not sure.
Any help would be much appreciated.

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Annette. Smiley
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Re: Thomas Bowden Bryar, born, Marazion
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 July 09 06:57 UTC (UK) »
Hi Annette,

Thomas Bawden Bryar married Mary Ann Roberts Bargip on 25 Jan 1851 at St Just in Penwith

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=329887&dbtype=marriages

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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 July 09 07:08 UTC (UK) »
Hi Tati,

Thank you for the information. Was surprised to find out the surname difference.
Many thanks,
Annette. Huh
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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 July 09 07:11 UTC (UK) »
Maybe they're not the ones after all? Then Thomas' name seems pretty unique. (Maybe the transcription is wrong and the old writing of 'ss' was mistaken for a p? I see the GRO has her name as Burgess)

Here they are with Thomas' parents in 1851 - any use?

1851
HO107/1919 166 30
St Just, Cornwall
Carnyorth
Richard Pryar, head, 41, Miner, b. St Just Cornwall
Mary Ann, wife, 43, b. Penryn
Thomas, son, mar, 20, Miner, b. Marazion
Mary, d law, mar, 22, b. Breage
Allace, dau, 11, b. Marazion
Mary Ann, dau, 10, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, (age column shows a 3 in the male column and a 6 in the female), b. do.
Richard, son, (no age shown - I'm guessing he should be 3), b. do.
  
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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 July 09 07:18 UTC (UK) »
Hi Annette,

Thomas Bawden BRYER was baptised 11 Dec 1831 Marazion parents Richard and Mary Ann

Siblings

Richad BRIER 25 Dec 1832 Marazion
Philip BRIER 11 May 1834 Marazion
Philip BRIER 9 Aug 1835 Marazion
Mary Anne Bawden BRYAR 12 Mar 1837 Marazion
Alice Jane BRIER 15 Sep 1839 Marazion
Mary Ann BRIER 19 Sep 1841 Marazion
Jane Bawden BRYER 18 Jun 1843 Marazion
Elizabeth BRIER 25 May 1845 Marazion
Richard BRYANT 19 Sep 1847 Marazion. - Richard was a miner

Richard BRYER = Mary Ann BAWDEN 6 Feb 1831 St Hilary

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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 July 09 07:31 UTC (UK) »
I'm wondering if the witness Phillip Bargip should actually be Philippa Burgess:

1841
HO107/136 3 7 6
Breage, Cornwall
William Burgess, 40, Tin Miner
Elizabeth, 4 (she's 51 in 1851)
Jane, 18
Phillipha, 16
Elizabeth, 14
Mary An, 12
William, 8
Hester, 5
John, 3
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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 July 09 10:50 UTC (UK) »
Hi Kris,

Many thanks for the info. It must have been a nightmare with all the different spellings that were used. I will have to think about different spellings when I look at the census and not just the given way.
I appreciate the help you have given me many thanks.

Regards
Annette. Cheesy
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annette ellen
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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 02 July 09 10:58 UTC (UK) »
Hi Tati,

Thanks for the update. It gets more confusing when the names are written in many ways.
Looks like some of the children must have died with some having the same names, my what fun it will bewriting this all out.
Thank you so much for the info.
Regards
Annette Shocked
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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 02 July 09 11:43 UTC (UK) »
Hi Annette,

Yes it certainly is a name with many variants

Philip BRYANT was buried 25 Sep 1834 St Hilary aged 6 months
Philip BRYAR was buried 1 Mar 1836 St Hilary aged 7 months


Richard BRIAR died Jun 1/4 1838 Penzance 9 123
the nearest I can see for Mary Ann is Mary BRIAN Dec 1838 9 133

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 July 09 08:45 UTC (UK) »
Hi Kris,

Thanks for the update. I have noticed that a lot of families gave children the same name after one died.

In your previous answer were the dates birth or Baptism dates?

Many thanks, as once again I have been helped by you.

Cheers
Annette Cool
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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 July 09 12:18 UTC (UK) »
Hi Annette,

Glad to help. The dates provided were all baptism dates.

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Thomas Bowden BRYAR, born, Marazion
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 05 July 09 19:32 UTC (UK) »
There is an area near Marazion called Barripper ... is Bargip a mistranscription I wonder?
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