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Cramond Brig
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In the WW1 Roll of Honour of Scotland's dead I am working I have raeched Corporal Daniel Lambie, born and living in Saltcoats, died 24/4/1917, age 33. It appears that his wife and two children drowned in 1915 when the Lusitania was torpedoed. I think I have them from a passenger list - Mrs Mary Lambie, Miss Elizabeth Lambie, and Miss Mary Roslyn Lambie - although I am not sure about Mary Roslyn. Not sure of Mrs Lambie's age but I think Elizabeth was born in 1903. As yet I can't find Mary Roslyn which makes me wonder if she is a daughter.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Alistair
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Alastair:
www.threetowners.com/Saltcoats/lusitania_victims.htm
Four Saltcoats Victims Mrs Mary Lambie (nee Docherty), whose parents reside in Arthur St, Saltcoats was the wife of Daniel Lambie, who, prior to emigration to Ronald, Washington. She was a young woman, and had been abroad for about 5 yrs. Lately she had been in indifferent health and decided to return home. Along with her and her two daughters, aged 9 & 6 yrs, she embarked on the Lusitania for Liverpool. None of them ever reached port. The husband is still in Ronald, Washington, he is a slater to trade, and served his apprenticeship with Judge Christie, Saltcoats. By some means or another Mr Docherty, a brother of the deceased had information that Mrs Lambie was confined in an hospital in Southhampton, and he proceeded there via London on Sunday. He learned on arrival that such was not the case and no further news has been received.
There is a marriage showing on SP for a Daniel Lambie and Mary Docherty in Stevenston, Ayrshire in 1905. I assume you have Danieil with his family in the 1901 Census in Saltcoats.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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MonicaLesl
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Details on the Saltcoats WW1 Roll of Honour:
www.threetowners.com/Saltcoats/saltcoats_ww1.htm
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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MonicaLesl
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Alastair
I think the reference to 'Roslyn' is probably a place name in Washington:
Mrs. Daniel Lambie, died (Mary Docherty) Roslyn, Washington, Verenigde Staten Miss Elizabeth Lambie, died (08) (child) Roslyn, Washington, Verenigde Staten Miss Mary Lambie, died (02) (child) Roslyn, Washington, Verenigde Staten
www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/discus/messages/10245/8062.html?1006509987
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Cramond Brig
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Monica
Thanks for all that. It does, however, leave one mystery (unless I am missing something). CWGC is quite clear that Daniel lost his wife and two children in 1915 and then died himself in 1917, but the newspaper report says he stayed behind in America. I can only conjecture that after his family's death he was motivated to come back and enlist out of anger towards the Germans.
Unfortunately his enlistment record does not come up in the national Archives so may have been burned in the fire that destroyed a lot of them.
What do you think about my guesswork?
Alistair
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andycand
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Hi
A Danl Lambie age 31, a miner, arrived in Glasgow 1st June 1915 on the Tuscania (from New York) The passenger list has an address of 16 Hamilton St, Saltcoats.
Andy
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MonicaLesl
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That's great Andy 
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Cramond Brig
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Andy
That kind of fits my theory that Daniel returned as soon as he found out about his family's death - and enlisted.
Thanks for your help and now back to my 7,000 Argylls
Alistair
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Q98
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Hi Cramond Brig
Here's hoping you read this after such a while since your original posting. The following MAY provide earlier data on your Lambies:
http://www.ayrshireroots.com/Genealogy/Surnames/Lambie/Desc%20Alex%20Lambie%201793.htm
Q98 Fremantle Western Australia
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Hamilton, Kennedy, Lovell, McCreadie, Murray - Ayrshire, Scotland Lovell - Texas, USA McCreadie - Dunedin, NZ Boyle - Eire McCreadie, Wills, Wyatt - Queensland
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Cramond Brig
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Thanks for that.
Alistair
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