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alijet
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Richard RUMBELOW
« on: Monday 28 September 09 12:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Richard Rumbelow was born c1827 in West Row. He married Mary Ann Reynolds in 1847 and died in 1904 in West Row. I have all his children and their details. I have all the census details except 1841

Where I need help is:

1. Does anyone know where he is in 1841. He's not living where I expected hm to be (with his parents).

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2. This is my biggest dilemma. I was told his parents were John Rumbelow & Susanna (Susan) Brown. However, because he's not showing on the 1841 census and I can't find any record to tie Richard in with Susan & John, I'm starting to wonder if he is the son of another Rumbelow!! Undecided

I believe his grandparents are Samuel Rumbelow and Sarah Neale and wondered if Richard is a son from another of their offspring.

Can anyone confirm who his parents actually are?

Many thanks

Alison
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Tati
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Re: Richard Rumbelow
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 September 09 12:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alison,

I think I can see Richard in 1841 at Mildenhall:
Rhd Rumbelow, 15, Male servant, born in county

on the farm headed by a Sarah Williamson HO107/1027/14 20 3

Not much help, is it?  Tongue Have you considered purchasing his marriage certificate to find out his father's name? 
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Re: Richard Rumbelow
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 September 09 12:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I would think the best thing would be to get his marriage certificate as that should show his fathers name.

Rosie

Sorry Tati
I didn't get a message about another post either  Huh
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Re: Richard Rumbelow
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 September 09 13:01 UTC (UK) »

Transcribed Rhed Rumbelow?? HO107/1027/14 Folio 20 Page 3 Worlington, Mildenhall, Suffolk, age 15 MS Y in house of Farmer Sarah Williamson and family

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Cat
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Re: Richard Rumbelow
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 September 09 13:06 UTC (UK) »

In some census Richard gives p.o.b. as Mildenhall

IGI has
Christenings -extracted
both baptised on same day

Richard Rumbelow
Samuel Rumbelow
10 Dec 1826 Mildenhall Suffolk
Parents John Rumbelow/Susan

possibility for Richard in 1841?
1841
Mildenhall Suffolk
(address on previous page looks like Ferry hall)
Sarah Williamson 40 farmer
sarah 20
Charles 20
Hannah Fuller 20 dressmaker
Richd Rumbelow 15 M.S.
Martha Marley 10 F.S.
Isaac Marley 40 Milkman
all b in county
HO107 1027 14 20 3

Suz
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Re: Richard Rumbelow
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 September 09 13:08 UTC (UK) »

sorry -no notifications showing

Suz
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Re: Richard Rumbelow
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 September 09 13:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Thanks all.

Suz - is the info for bapt. on the Parish Records and if so, do you know where I can get a copy.

Many thanks and regards

Alison
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Re: Richard Rumbelow
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 September 09 17:03 UTC (UK) »

the christenings were from the IGI which can be viewed (free) at www.familysearch.org

source given is
Bishops Transcripts for the archdeaconry of Sudbury 1560-1853

the record is transcribed so is most possibly correct (allowing for transcription errors)

On the IGI you have to treat "member submitted" records with caution - sometimes they are nothing more than a guess

Suz
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Re: Richard RUMBELOW
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 September 09 05:34 UTC (UK) »

Thank you, have found the whole family

Regards

Alison
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Re: Richard RUMBELOW
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 03 October 09 21:35 UTC (UK) »

alijet

Was Nathan Rumbelow one of your family, he was of Mildenhall apparently?

He died on the 8th August 1846, having walked 4 miles the previous day. He served under Rodney 60 years previously.

The Ipswich journal reports on his death it its edition of Saturday August 15th.

Tom
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Re: Richard RUMBELOW
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 October 09 04:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tom,

Yes he was thank you for this wonderful snippet of info.

Kind Regards

Alison
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Re: Richard RUMBELOW
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 October 09 08:07 UTC (UK) »

alijet,

Just for your records the full report reads:

The Ipswich Journal Saturday, August 15, 1846

8th inst., at the advanced age of 96, Nathan Rumbelow, of Mildenhall. The deceased was in the forces under renowned Admiral Rodney, upwards of 60 years since; and within a few days of his death walked a distance of four miles without assistance.

This would mean that he was a sailor, and fought with Admiral Rodney against the French in the American War of Independence.

There are a number of entries for Rumbelow in the newspaper-in Mildenhall, where one was a constable, at Freckingham

Unfortunately due to the fact that the newspaper reported mostly on local events, there are numerous court reports, but also BMD.  There are also adverts for the sale of property-a Philip Rumbelow of Bramford for instance.

Tom
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Re: Richard RUMBELOW
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 04 October 09 09:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tom,

Is there anyway I can get access to all this info on line.  Philip is also an ancestor, to follow up with news reports would be brillaint

Thanks again and regards

Alison
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Re: Richard RUMBELOW
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 October 09 14:22 UTC (UK) »

alijet,

All that info comes from 48 British national newspapers available from gale Databases, but available online at Lancashire Library.

Yes easy-if in Uk, or abroad, go to

 http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/onrl/

You will see the database on the right of the screen.  You have to join the library first, yes join it as you would any other library. They send you a library ticket, with a serial number upon it and use that number to gain access. You do have to give you home address, so they can send you the library ticket. If abroad, then they send you the ticket number online. It's all explained on the website. It's very addictive.

I did find that a John Rumbelow went to prison at Bury in 1826 for having children chargeable to the parish.
The Ipswich Journal Saturday, October 27, 1827

Commitments to Bury Gaol:

John Rumbelow and James Thomson, by Robert Eagle Esq., convicted of misdemeanors in the parish of Mildenhall, in wilfully permitting their families to become chargeable; to be imprisoned 14 days.

There are now confined in this Gaol 135 prisoners, including 20 debtors, which is an increase of 13 from corresponding period in 1826-twelve are for conviction under game laws.

Just as well that doesn't happen now-the prisons would be full!!

I also found that the wife of a John Rumbelow, farmer died:

The Ipswich Journal Saturday, October 22, 1881
   Rumbelow, 17inst.,at Freckenham, at advanced age, Mrs Rumbelow, relict of Mr. John Rumbelow, farmer.

Tom

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Re: Richard RUMBELOW
« Reply #14 on: Monday 05 October 09 04:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tom,

Thanks, I'll set this up now. I'm going to have great fun.

Regrards

Alison
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