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jrdnc09
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi,
I am chasing a marriage record of two people born in UK and married in Ohio USA. three children born in Ohio and then returned to Workington.
Sara Jane Joplin(g) bn Durham) -m William Longstaff (bn Bedale)in Ohio abt 1867-70.
Emma Hope Longstaff born Ohio 1870
This family appears on 1881 Workington cenus, Brayton Street.
How do i obtain marriage cert and birth certs. I have been unable to locate any information
Nothing on BDM sites both UK and USA, and no luck with acessing UK archives site.
I would be very grateful to some advice of how to locate info.
thank you
Joanne
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lizdb
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Are you wanting the marriage cert / birth certs of children that occured in USA?
If so best to transfer this to USA board to get specialist info.
From the censuses it looks as if they were in Illinois at time of John's birth, so that may help.
If it is their own births, rather than the childrens, then again the censuses give clues as to where they were born
1881
RG11 5178 23 39
5 Byron Street Workington
William 46 Steel Rail straightener bn Yorkshire Asker??
Sarah J 36 bn Durham West Renton
John W 13
Emma H 11
Aron J 5 all children bn "America"
1891
RG12 4305 20 35
27 Brayton Street Workington
William 56 steel rail straightener bn Yorks Beale
Sarah J 43 bn Durham West Rainton
John W 22 bn USA Illinois
Frederick E 9 bn Workington
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emmsthheight
RootsChat Aristocrat
Posts: 1890
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Hi
Looking at the birth places, many of these placews were pronounced in dialect/ strong accent and Cumbrians tend to miss chunks off,
eg "Sanuth" for "Sandwith"
"Terpennur" for Torpenhow etc.
"'tMoor" for "The Moor", meaning Cleator Moor", etc.
I wonder if Beale could be "Bedale" and "Asker" Aisgarth or some other variation?
Best wishes
Emms
Modified:
Sorry, just seen the Bedale at the top.
Emms
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emmsthheight
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Posts: 1890
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Hi again.
If William's age is accurate on the census, then he was born just beforwe the start of civil registration in this country, so we are down to church records.
Looking on familysearch.org, under "Search Records", unfortunately there are two entries very close together for a William baptised at Bedale.
C;licking on the name:
On 8 March 1835, William Langstaffe, son of James and Mary was baptised.
On 16 April, 1836 William Longstaff, son of George and Mary was baptised. Also a couple very close by.
You could ask for someone to look at the original which you should anyway, for extra clues such as abode details or occuopation.
Best wishes
Emms
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emmsthheight
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Posts: 1890
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Hi
I couldn't see Sarah Jane on familysearch, but on Free bmd -
(She seems to have been born after 1837 and this indexes civil registration, though it isn't complete, it's pretty good at this stage. You can also look at the original image of the index to check.)
From the entry, you can send to ONS in Southport, online or post, or a local registrar's (Not with this code).for a birth certificate.
http://freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Unfortunately, the two census entry's give different birth dates so it's a big interval. Only one Sarah Jane, but also one at Bedale! She could have been born at say a grandparent's.
I think in your position I woul;d look for the marriage in the USA/ try the USA board, and if you can get the certificate over there, - Possibly online, you usually get the fathers names and occupations. Also, possibly, another idea of Sarah Jane's age.
Have alook on the link and see what you think.
Best wishes
Emms
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emmsthheight
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Posts: 1890
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Hi Goeffe
Sorry, must be the heat! We already know thanks to you, that one was in Co Durham! Even better! You have a marriage, so a certificate woul;d be a good move.
Best wishes
Emms
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jrdnc09
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Hi Geoff E,
thanks for the info and updates.
Is it best to obtain MRG cert through GRO or would there be access to a Durham registration.
Also i am wondering if a person born overseas to Brittish parents is required to register birth on entry to the UK??
Any ideas??
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jrdnc09
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:)XX
Thanks you for your suggestions. I am hoping that i can find some kind of record of birth for emma and siblings in US sites, however it is very costly even to look at indexes so I will try the boards first and take it from there.
thanks again for help.
Joanne
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