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wendyBan
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born in America but British Citizen
« on: Wednesday 08 July 09 18:53 UTC (UK) »
Does anyone know how to find information about a British Subject born in America.  In the 1901 census it says my great grandfather Sidney Smith was born in America but was a British subject.  Are there ways of tracing this?
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Re: born in America but British Citizen
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 19:12 UTC (UK) »
Do you know his parents' names?  His date of birth?  Was he on any previous or subsequent UK census records?
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Re: born in America but British Citizen
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 20:08 UTC (UK) »
Hello,
sorry- should have waited for more details  Embarrassed wrong Sidney Smith  Roll Eyes

here he is in 1891 RG12; Piece: 2000; Folio 115; Page 51

a large family and he is the only one born USA - Maryland.

1881 RG11; Piece: 2517; Folio: 125; Page: 38
aged 6 months - same birthplace - Maryland

Father is a grocery storekeeper

There is a 2 yr old in 1881 born Berkeley so it only seems to be a fairly short visit. If you need any of these details -please post.

best wishes
heywood
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Re: born in America but British Citizen
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 21:11 UTC (UK) »
I don't know what the bureaucratic procedure was a century ago, but these days you register your child with the British Consul in the country you are living

Our children were born in Switzerland, so we registered their births in Geneva British Consulate. They issue a normal British Birth Cert.

The British Government have this page with procedures

You should be able to get a Birth Cert for your g-grandfather via that route
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Re: born in America but British Citizen
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 22:24 UTC (UK) »
He was born in 1895, His father was Thomas Smith
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Re: born in America but British Citizen
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 22:33 UTC (UK) »
Where were they in the 1901 Census?  I can't find them.
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 22:42 UTC (UK) »
Wandsworth Battersea.  They are gypsies and live at Donovans Yard.  There are 2 older siblings Fanny b 1885 and Rainer b 1891, both born in England.   Thomas (father) also used the surname Riddle under which I found him in 1881, 1861 census.  In the 1901 census Thomas is a Hawker but he has also been a Horse Keeper, Groom and his death certificate said he was formerly a professional athlete.
RG number RG13.  Piece 452 Folio 39 page 21
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Jacquie in Canada
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Re: born in America but British Citizen
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 July 09 01:21 UTC (UK) »
I took a quick look at the Consular Births index at Find My Past but didn't see any entries for a birth of Sidney Smith.

Have you found him on the 1911 England census? Perhaps it will provide a more exact location. With his birth listed as America, it is possible he could have been born in the US or Canada. 

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz
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Re: born in America but British Citizen
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 July 09 08:48 UTC (UK) »
In 1911 Sidney smith is spelt Sydney smith and is a Gardner in Crackley Kenilworth but has no entry for where born.
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